Joe the Plumber

[Karlynn]

**DING** wrong again. I never ass-u-me anything.. With best regards, perhaps it would behoove you to peruse my statement once more..
Research "provisional ballot" and it should become more clear to you in a couple of respects. Also HAVA of 2002 would benefit your quest for knowledge of our electoral system.

Oh, and in Texas there are no volunteers. Election workers are trained and monetarily compensated for their work.

You are assuming that I have no direct experience with the election and voting process. But, I guess I'm not getting your point then because I quoted directly what you responded with and since you spoke of those working the polls and you quoted my comments on voter fraud... So I guess we're both wrong....again. Ding ding ding.

My Dad was an election judge for 25 years. Yes he was paid - something like $25 for the day in his last few years before "retiring" from the position. He considered it his volunteer work because he usually took the money and bought donuts and coffee for all the workers.

There was a report on one of the major networks on a particular polling place that was so inundated by questionable voters that they ran out of provisional ballots and just started giving everyone regular ballots. Workers can only do so much, lawyers placed at polls can only do so much. If the unimaginable happens and McCain ends up winning, my guess is that the shoe will be on some other feet and then voter fraud will be a problem for those who don't believe it to be right now. For me, it's a problem no matter who wins. I think our politicians/governing bodies have created a sloppy mess in their quest to make voting accessible to as many people who will vote for them as possible.

I don't know what the answer is. But it has become such a partisan issue that no one seems very interested in solving the problem - only arguing about it.

Yep - dyed fingers seem more and more the smart thing to do.

For the last several weeks my opinion on this election has been "Be careful what you ask for, for you just may receive it." I really don't know why either candidate would want the job right now.

 

[PairoDocs]

Well, to be frank, I think that one of the reasons why McCain thinks he would survive being president during this time, is because he managed to survive over 5 years as an officer in a Vietnam POW camp. Being President during this time might be similar in the stress department, so basically what doesn't kill you makes you stronger... As for Obama, he probably thinks he has a few extra years to burn off, and might think he'd look handsome in premature gray from the stress. Look at how much GWB has aged since being President. He looks as old as his father now.

Of course Joe the plumber shaves his head--so he doesn't care how the stress would affect his hair color, therefore he's the least likely to become President for that sexy iron-gray look, and thus pay better attention to national needs. Therefore, he should announce the Small-Medium Business Owner Party (the type that employs about 40+% of US workers if I recall my figures right and makes a hair bit above $250,000--most of which goes to pay these 50,000,000 Americans who work for these places), and run against McCain and Obama last minute--just to see what happens.

The results might be amusing to say the least...

Chris

 

[hensylee]

Looks like we've got the usual suspects cornered right here on VR . . .
Ross, Hensylee, and Marguerite have stated they've VOTED EARLY! Good Heavens . . . we all know they're prime candidates to engage in voter fraud!

well, I tried that second vote, but police showed up, put me in cuffs, read me my rights, took me uptown to the big house, I cried, they felt sorry for an old lady, brought me coffee and donuts, told me some jokes, played my favorite tunes, took me home. It was such fun to get out and mix/party with our finest! Don't get to do that very often.

 

[Wise]

well, I tried that second vote, but police showed up, put me in cuffs, read me my rights, took me uptown to the big house, I cried, they felt sorry for an old lady, brought me coffee and donuts, told me some jokes, played my favorite tunes, took me home. It was such fun to get out and mix/party with our finest! Don't get to do that very often.

Ann, you are my favorite comedian. I think you are keeping a secret about where you're currently doing stand up comedy!

 

[Mary]

well, I tried that second vote, but police showed up, put me in cuffs, read me my rights, took me uptown to the big house, I cried, they felt sorry for an old lady, brought me coffee and donuts, told me some jokes, played my favorite tunes, took me home. It was such fun to get out and mix/party with our finest! Don't get to do that very often.

Oh no!Ann's had a walk on the wildside!She's well on her way to becoming a career criminal!With Election Day still looming . . . she's apt to give it another shot!Cooker . . Quick! . . Secure some donuts! . . . We've got to combat the lure of Florida's finest!

 

[Karlynn]

We already know that Ann frequently walks/runs on the wild side - see sex thread histories.

 

[njean]

well, I tried that second vote, but police showed up, put me in cuffs, read me my rights, took me uptown to the big house, I cried, they felt sorry for an old lady, brought me coffee and donuts, told me some jokes, played my favorite tunes, took me home. It was such fun to get out and mix/party with our finest! Don't get to do that very often.

Ann, I think you missed your calling!! This is way tooooooo funny!

 

[Freddie]

Oh my.
Ann, I would have never thought

 

[Bina]

Ann sure knows how to have fun! Nothing beats a day in the cop shop....

 

[Ross]

Mitral valve I'd Like Fixed?

Exactly, why everyone is making such a big deal out of it is beyond me.

 

[BDMc]

Ann, I don't think I've told you, I love you! Thanks for the chuckles! I'll be out of town most of the day tomorrow, and will have to dash back to get to the polls before they close. I'll do it though. Once while waiting to vote I stood in front of a man and his young son. The man was obviously an immigrant, and his son had been born here. He wanted his son to know that with the freedoms we enjoy in this country, came the sacred responsibility to vote. I sometimes wonder what difference my vote makes, or even the candidates, but I do it remembering that man. I think that no matter who is elected president, there are very hard dark times ahead. I do favor one candidate over the other, because I really believe they offer more hope. Ironically I started out firmly for the other! All the best, Brian

 

[Turkey Hunter]

I normally try to stay away from the heated posts here on VR.com.....but;
There is voter fraud and multi voting going on....here in Ohio a Federal Judge ruled that a homeless person must be allowed to list a park bench as their residence and be allowed to vote...(Talk about legislating from the bench)

This election is a paramount one and we will never all agree as to what makes it so important....I for one am amazed that Obama can get away with joking off the socialist claims that have been made about him....has the majority of the Country forgotten what a socialist is????? Spreading the wealth around is good for everyone??????? What? When did that become a good idea? It has never worked in Europe....

Obama supports question McCain on his associations from 20 years ago; yet republicans are not allowed to questions Barry's 20 year long friends and pastor or his miss-representations concerning his voting record in Illinois.
Which by the way, he voted "Present" more often than one side or the other of an issue. And his sten in D.C......he has spent more time trying to become president than he has actually being present on Capitol Hill doing what his Constituents have asked him to do when they voted him into office.

Well beofre I am banned for posting my oppinion, I will digress and move on to another topic somewhere else!!

BTW, I am no huge McCain fan and never have been; but Palin...she is more intelligent than most will ever give her credit for......she has a higher security clearance as Govn. of Alaska than Obama does as Senator. AND she can handle the job of President, God forbid she would ever have to.

 

[Ross]

I normally try to stay away from the heated posts here on VR.com.....but;
There is voter fraud and multi voting going on....here in Ohio a Federal Judge ruled that a homeless person must be allowed to list a park bench as their residence and be allowed to vote...(Talk about legislating from the bench)

This election is a paramount one and we will never all agree as to what makes it so important....I for one am amazed that Obama can get away with joking off the socialist claims that have been made about him....has the majority of the Country forgotten what a socialist is????? Spreading the wealth around is good for everyone??????? What? When did that become a good idea? It has never worked in Europe....

Obama supports question McCain on his associations from 20 years ago; yet republicans are not allowed to questions Barry's 20 year long friends and pastor or his miss-representations concerning his voting record in Illinois.
Which by the way, he voted "Present" more often than one side or the other of an issue. And his sten in D.C......he has spent more time trying to become president than he has actually being present on Capitol Hill doing what his Constituents have asked him to do when they voted him into office.

Well beofre I am banned for posting my oppinion, I will digress and move on to another topic somewhere else!!

BTW, I am no huge McCain fan and never have been; but Palin...she is more intelligent than most will ever give her credit for......she has a higher security clearance as Govn. of Alaska than Obama does as Senator. AND she can handle the job of President, God forbid she would ever have to.

Ben no one is getting banned for posting their opinions. Not you, not Superbob, or anyone. This thread is just a thread to let the steam off. If it should overheat, so what, it'll all be over tomorrow and life will go on. Personally, I wish we had a whole new ticket with all new people to vote for. I don't like one choice that we have, but these are our choices.

 

[Turkey Hunter]

it'll all be over tomorrow and life will go on.

I fear it may be another 2000 in the making to be honest.....hanging chads.....counting "voter intent" and courts stopping the stealing of an election.

 

[Ross]

I almost didn't vote this time because of being so disenchanted with the last round. I'm convinced it's a rigged process, but I did the american thing and voted anyway.
It will be what it will be. I'd like to think we make a difference, but I have my doubts.

 

[Ross]

 

[hensylee]

Ann, I don't think I've told you, I love you! Thanks for the chuckles! I'll be out of town most of the day tomorrow, and will have to dash back to get to the polls before they close. I'll do it though. Once while waiting to vote I stood in front of a man and his young son. The man was obviously an immigrant, and his son had been born here. He wanted his son to know that with the freedoms we enjoy in this country, came the sacred responsibility to vote. I sometimes wonder what difference my vote makes, or even the candidates, but I do it remembering that man. I think that no matter who is elected president, there are very hard dark times ahead. I do favor one candidate over the other, because I really believe they offer more hope. Ironically I started out firmly for the other! All the best, Brian

never think your one vote doesn't count. I used to live in a small county where one vote was often the decider. Every single vote is very important.

And Ben, I think you are right. In Fl, our original votes (primary) didn't count at all. I wasted stamps mailing it in and want my stamps back. Made us all so irate. Wasn't my fault the party made decisions and didn't ask us. And yes, I do think we will have hanging chad stuff but this time it might be in Ohio!

As to having a bit of fun, that's the stuff life's made of. yea..........

 

[Duff Man]

dude, i would so be her whatevershewants.

 

[Karlynn]

Okay - I'm going to take a risk and post this. This is a song by Derek Webb. My band and I did this song in church on Sunday. The message we wanted to get across (and there are supporters of both candidates represented in our band) is that you better not be waiting on any single human to take the lead and make your life better. (I'm a rebel - I didn't ask permission before we did it, I figured it would be easier to beg our pastor's forgiveness after - fortunately he loved it.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p00ASxejlE

I love the line - You can always trust the devil or a politician - to be the devil or a politician.

 

[PJmomrunner]

I fear it may be another 2000 in the making to be honest.....hanging chads.....counting "voter intent" and courts stopping the stealing of an election.

You had me there, Ben, until you slipped in "stopped" where most voters in that election would have put "facilitated".