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My daughter was born on December 9, 2002 she was my 1st child and was 3 days late and 8.11lb's Big and healthy we thought. The nurse heard a murmur and the dr said no she heard wrong there is nothing wrong with your daughter. So we took her home. She was 9 days old when she turned gray and let out an adult cry. I called that Dr. and at 6:15 at night we went to his office. He then tells us she might have an infection and we should take her to the hospital. He told my husband to take us because we would be faster than an ambulance. By the time we made it to the hospital 20 min's latter she had crashed. there were 13 people around my baby shaving her hair and working on her. We were moved to the private room where they told us she prob. will not make it. But a there was a Dr. that was able to run a line through her umbilical cord to her heart and keep her stable so we could fly her to Ga. children's hospital. She had 3 open heart surgery's by 8 months old, she was tube feed for the 1st year due to her left vocal cord that was paralyzed from the heart surgery's. She is now almost six and even though we were told that her mitral valve would last till she was 60 years old it is now failing. They need to do surgery now but the death rate is very high for children under six and she is only 31lb. small for her age so the Dr.s want to wait till she crashes and now I'm back in the really scared stage again. They need to put a mechanical mitral valve that will have to be replaced every few years as she grows. but when she is an adult it will be replaced every 10 years. I know that technology can get better to. She is also due at age 10 to have a cadavers valve replaced to a bigger one. When my daughter Brooklyn Ann was baby I lived on the internet, reading stories about children with Shones Complex. My husband got rid of the internet which was the best thing for me. It has been 5 years with out the internet and I just got it. As you see I'm back on the sights. I just pray I do better this time. I send many prayers to you and thank you again for sharing your story. Alison McGough
 
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My daughter was born on December 9, 2002 she was my 1st child and was 3 days late and 8.11lb's Big and healthy we thought. The nurse heard a murmur and the Dr said no she heard wrong there is nothing wrong with your daughter. So we took her home. She was 9 days old when she turned gray and let out an adult cry. I called that Dr. and at 6:15 at night we went to his office. He then tells us she might have an infection and we should take her to the hospital. He told my husband to take us because we would be faster than an ambulance. By the time we made it to the hospital 20 min's latter she had crashed. there were 13 people around my baby shaving her hair and working on her. We were moved to the private room where they told us she prob. will not make it. But a there was a Dr. that was able to run a line through her umbilical cord to her heart and keep her stable so we could fly her to Ga. childrens hospital. She had 3 open heart surgery's by 8 months old, she was tube feed for the 1st year due to her left vocal cord that was paralyzed from the heart surgery's. She is now almost six and even though we were told that her mitral valve would last till she was 60 years old it is now failing. They need to do surgery now but the death rate is very high for children under six and she is only 31lb. small for her age so the Dr.s want to wait till she crashes and now I'm back in the really scared stage again. They need to put a mechanical mitral valve that will have to be replaced every few years as she grows. but when she is an adult it will be replaced every 10 years. I know that technology can get better to. She is also due at age 10 to have a cadavers valve replaced to a bigger one. When my daughter Brooklyn Ann was baby I lived on the internet, reading stories about children with Shones Complex. My husband got rid of the internet which was the best thing for me. It has been 5 years with out the internet and I just got it. As you see I'm back on the sights. I just pray I do better this time. I send many prayers to you and thank you again for sharing your story. Alison McGough
 
Welcome, Allison. I'm glad you found us. There are many "heart parents" here and I am sure they will soon be along to support you. My heart goes out to all of you and I hope you find the information and support that you need here. God Bless!
 
Alison, welcome

My heart is aching for you and for little Brooklyn Ann. What an ordeal you are going through...do not hesitate to write anytime. I pray you find answers and support here.

Last week, Rebecca, a member on this website put information about "Heart Valves That Grow With The Patient". Check it out in case it relates to Brooklyn's situation.

I wish you well and peace at heart and will keep you all in my prayers.

(((Hugs))) to Brooklyn Ann and to you all.
 
Welcome Alison,

We have a few members with children who have undergone valve replacement under the age of 8 or so. I am sure you will hear from them or you could send PMs. The two that immediately come to mind are gijanet and Emma (although Emma is awaiting the birth of a baby so she might be a bit busy).;):D

I think you might find that there are options to waiting but I am sure every situation is different.
 
Hello Alison and welcome!
Having an ill child is every parent's worst nightmare, but medical procedures are advancing at a rapid rate and so many children are being saved and are able to enjoy a good life. Stay strong.
The weekends on this site may be a bit slow, but keep checking in for the Moms and younger crowd who may answer your post.
 
Just wanted to welcome you to the community Alison & I pray that you will find the answers you so desperately seek for your daughter. I can only imagine how your heart must ache to watch your child in ill health. But don't lose faith, as others have already mentioned, technology is so much more advanced & more advancements are happening each & every day. I feel confident that with the right doctors/surgeons, a solution will be found for your little Brooklyn.

So hang in there my friend & keep reading our posts & hopefully your fears will be lessened & that ray of hope will be brighter.
:)
 
Hi Alison, welcome to the site I joined a few years ago just before my son had his mitral valve replaced. Caleb was 5 and weighed about 40 lbs when he had his valve replaced, it was his third surgery. He has a mechanical 21ml St. Judes valve. We are looking to replace it around 15-16 or when grows closer to adult size. We were also told that his valve sould be ok for many years, actually that he wouldn't need a second surgery and he has had three looking at a few more down the road, some will be regaurding other heart issues.

I would definetly look at a second opinion for your daughter. It seems to me that they have given a lot of doom and gloom. I would be worried if I had heard that about my child. I'm not sure that I would be comfortable with those answers.

I hope this helps.
Jamie
 
Hi Alison and Welcome to the family. You have found a really great forum with outstanding support, experiences and information.

I can't help, but as a parent I too would try for a second opinion.
 
Ross

Ross

Can you move this to the heart forum or pre-surgery forum for better visibility? Thanks, sweetie. J.
 
Alison........big ((((hugs)))) going to you!

Alison........big ((((hugs)))) going to you!

Welcome to the group. I know how terrified you are as I have walked in your shoes. (That is how I stumbled upon this wonderful group of folks.) My daughter Katie has had five heart surgeries, including the EC fontan and a mechanical valve replacement at the age of four. Her common AV valve (mitral and tricuspid merged as one common valve, but generally considered to be her mitral for anticoagulation, etc., purposes). She is now seven years old, in second grade and doing great. She is a bundle of energy, although she does stay somewhat bruised from the coumadin, but she is very rambunctious and quite the little tomboy.

The internet is a wonderful thing, but please do not read everything that you believe, especially concerning statistics. Most are dated and do not reflect the technological advances that have been made in the last ten years. You know, I am sure, that repeated surgeries on our kids are riskier because of the scar tissue buildup in addition to their smaller, fragile systems, but most are surviving.

I am concerned about where your daughter is being treated, though, if that institution is where you were told that the death rate for valve replacement in children under six is very high. I would encourage you to seek out additional opinions from some of the larger pediatric heart centers. (I know the University of Alabama has a pretty good ped heart program, and it is a teaching hospital so it should accept most insurance companies.)

Although Katie had her first heart surgery here at home when she was two weeks old, we began seeking out additional opinions (with the endorsement and support of our cardiologist) after the cath doctor there told us when she was two months old that we would be lucky if Katie lived to be five years old as most children with her condition (heterotaxy with complex chd) died before the age of five. We continue our followup at our local children's hospital, but we have had our last four heart surgeries at the University of Michigan's CS Mott's children's hospital. WE actually sought out five opinions before deciding on UofM and Dr. Bove. The beautiful part of it is that it didn't cost us anything. None of the larger heart centers (also teaching hospitals) charged us for that additional opinion. None of them. THe only one that charged us was our local children's hospital. Go figure!

Anyway, we just got a copy of her latest cath report and films as well as a copy of her latest echo and report and shipped them off. I did e-mail all of the surgeons whose opinions I was seeking in advance to see what would be needed and to confirm the cost as I didn't know if my insurance would cover multiple additional opinions. They told me what they needed (as mentioned above) and confirmed that their would be no cost. Your present hospital, though, may charge you for the copies of the echo and cath and the reports. Because my PC got copies for us, we did not have to pay anything but you might want to check on that. I know money can be an issue (believe me, I know), but most of the teaching hospitals do accept most insurance companies. The first time we went out of state for surgery, I did have to have our PC write them a letter stating why Katie needed to go out of network to have her surgery performed. By the next surgery, my school district had switched insurance companies to a PPO plan, and it wasn't an issue any longer.

Please seek out another opinion. I am reallly concerned about the current plan of waiting until your daughter crashes. :eek: Dr. Bove stressed to me that, while we could wait a little while for Katie's valve replacement, we did not want to undergo surgery in a crisis situation and nobody could predict when that could occur, but it would occur. And the odds of survival do go way down in a crisis situation. Also, Katie was four and Dr. Bove was able to place a small adult size valve in her so we, hopefully and God willing, will not have to have her valve replaced for a very long time, maybe never. (We are planning on Katie being in the Guinness Book for having the oldest mechanical valve on record! :D) Having said that, we know deep in our hearts that Katie is most likely not through with heart surgeries as she has so much extracurricular wiring within her in addition to the valve, and she could very well need a pacemaker or defibrillator some day, but we do hope and pray that that day is a long, long, long way off.

I would also have them check that cadaver valve out, too. I would hate to have your daughter get her mitral valve replaced and then turn around a year or two later and need the homograft valve replaced.

Well, I have rattled on long enough for one night. I hope this makes sense. I have a horrible head cold and my head is in a fog. Please feel free to vent and ask questions. We will be here for you. Many hugs. Janet
 
Welcome to the VR community. Sorry for the circumstances, but glad you found us. I was the patient so can't offer any insights on dealing with you situation. However, this is an amazing site with lots of diverse experiences. I hope you find all the answer you need. Best wishes and good luck.
 
Alison, I wanted to echo what Janet said about the facility where your daughter is being treated. With all of her problems, I would make sure she is being seen by Dr.'s who have a lot of experience dealing with her issues, including multiple re-ops. UAB does have a very good pediatric program and depending on where you are in Alabama, you may not be too far away from Vanderbilt in Nashville either. But if you are willing to travel, you might as well cast as big of a net as possible to get her the best.

I also just want to give you some hope. I have a moderately severe congenital heart condition and despite having been in the hospital 100 times before my first surgery at 17, I have gone on to have a very productive, great life.

Don't get caught up in too much info on the internet. Janet is right about statistics...alot of them are based on very old research and just aren't that accurate anymore.

Please keep us posted on how your daughter is doing.

Kim
 
To hold a kindagarten back or not?

To hold a kindagarten back or not?

Brooklyn is still waiting for her next heart surgery. The Dr.s said she could have a hard time learning in school and this has proved true. She is in Kindergarten and they want to hold her back. She was having trouble reading so we got her a reading coach 2x a week and she has been doing great. But still not up to their standards. She is also having trouble with math. In the state of Alabama it is the parent?s choice to hold a child back in kindergarten. My husband thinks she will do fine in 1st grade but I am worried. The school said that if she has to have 2 more heart surgeries before her senior year this too can hold her back. So by giving her an extra year in kindergarten it will give her the confidence she needs. I do not like the fact that she will be 7 in December and the other kids will be 5 turning 6. We will continue to have her tutored this summer. I guess I?m writing to get others advice so if you have some please share.
 
We had that choice when our oldest son was in Kindergarten and they wanted to hold him back. Because his brother was getting ready to start school, we decided to let him go to the first grade and we spent alot of extra time tutoring him on our own during the summer before first grade and through his entire first grade year. He is now 31 and we are grateful that we did not hold him back. He did fine in first grade and because he was with kids his own age, I know it made him feel better. If we had held him back, we would have had to hold his younger brother back so they were not in the same grade. We did not want either one of them to feel weird and since our oldest son is bi-polar, we did not want him to feel like he had failed since that tends to make him do things that normal people do not do.

He graduated high school with his class and we are thankful for all we have done for him and how much better he is because of our choice. It is your call and I tend to agree with your husband that she should be allowed to go to the first grade. You really do not want to hold her back now when there is a greater chance that she will need to repeat another higher year due to more heart surgeries.

Talk with her teachers and the teachers that she may have in the first grade as well as the school guidance person. They can give you more information and maybe help you make a really informed decision. Good luck and keep in touch.
 
Hey Alison,

Morgan here, I just wanted to say hey, I am 22 years old, soon to be a new grad, and I have a mild form of shones, and have has 2 OHS, and an ablation so far and am looking at having my mitral and aortic valves repaired/replaced within the next 5-10 years, just wanted to give you an adult's perspective. . . if you have any questions or concerns feel free to ask. . .
Morgan
 
I have this posted on Heart talk also and all of you have been wonderful sharing your advice on this matter.Yes, Brooklyn does have an iep and goes to speech therapy and an extra reading class. On top of that my husband and I have her seeing a tutor 2x a week. She struggles with math also. But I feel like she will get it soon. I pray that if I do send her to 1st grade that she does not struggle as the school has warned me she would. I will look into the 504 plan this is something that I have not heard of. So thank you all for helping me!
 
I have this posted on Heart talk also and all of you have been wonderful sharing your advice on this matter.Yes, Brooklyn does have an iep and goes to speech therapy and an extra reading class. On top of that my husband and I have her seeing a tutor 2x a week. She struggles with math also. But I feel like she will get it soon. I pray that if I do send her to 1st grade that she does not struggle as the school has warned me she would. I will look into the 504 plan this is something that I have not heard of. So thank you all for helping me!


Hi I missed your post in Nov, sorry. My son Justin is 21 and also has had a few heart surgeries. Since Brooklyn has and IEP, Does she have it for her CHD, or did they do tests for a learning disability also? The reason I ask is because a large percentage of children with CHD that had surgeies as a baby have learning problems, they aren't sure if it is from surgeries, low Oxygen or combinations of everything. Justin was classified in 2nd grade with a learning disability so was in special classes for reading, writing, spelling, language until he was mainstreamed for all classes in 10th grade. He had alot of problems in K and 1st grade, which is why they started the testing for a LD.
Since she has an IEP she probably doesn't need a 504, they usually use a 504 for physical /health problems if a child doesn't qualify for an IEP. IF they have an IEP then they just incorparate anything the 504 would say into the IEP.
As for holding her back, I can't offer any advice, we briefly thought about it when Justin was in Kindergarden, looking back I'm glad we didn't. He can be sensetive and already felt a little different because of his heart,kind of low self esteem and had some really good friends so staying in Kindergarden when all his friends moved up, probably really would have made his self esteem really low., and but again he ended up having a learning disability and holding him back wouldn't have helped, what he really needed was the smaller class and the teachers being able to teach him the way he learns best, he's more an audio viusal/hands on type of learning not reading.
BUT I guess ALOT would depend on what kind of grades Brooklyn is getting. Justin always struggled and had a hard time but never was flunking, or almost flunking grades, but alot of that was because he did all his homework ect so that kept him in low C's even with the terrible test grades. IF he was failing everything I would have kept him back

I'm not quite sure I understand why having surgeries would later on would hold her back, Justin and most kids I know had teachers come to the house while he was out. Actually Justin got better grades when he was homebound because the teacher got to work with just him and they got a weeks worth of class done in just a couple hours. (he had home bound part of 5th, 6th and 11th) BUT IF they think she might get held back later, I would think holding her back now might cause problems later on, I can't imagine being a Senior in HS when you are 20.
I probably confused you more than helpd soory, I'm hav9ing a tough day and not thinking clearly and am typing with a splint on my hand (gee I sound like a mess lol)
 
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