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Gnusgal

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Well, I finally got the results from my MUGGA scan that I had done last Friday. I had called my card's office yesterday and know they had the results then, but my doc didn't call me until this afternoon. I think she was trying to figure out some things before she called to tell me.

My EF is down again. When we'd first started doing these things it went down pretty drastically (from the 60s to the 40s), and now we've gone from 44% last year to 32% this year. :( My card isn't positive if this is due to meds I'm on or the natrual progression of my particular defects. So she's going to be presenting my case to the ACHD meeting on Tuesday, talking to Dr. Sebrina Phillips at the Mayo (who I saw for a few months when she was in Texas), and she's also going to talk to Dr. Franklin in Houston and Dr. Reddington in Toronto. Hopefully between all of those people we can figure something out??? Oh, and she also wants me to have a treadmill stress test done so we can see what that EF really means in terms of how I'm using O2 and such...

The thing that stinks is, I feel like I just can't win. I keep hoping that just once one of these tests will come back and a doc can honestly say "The results were better than we'd hoped." But that has not happened once. Ever time it's "These numbers are a lot lower than we expected." Now it's the waiting game once again until we get a game plan for what to do now...
 
Hi Nikki....

Hi Nikki....

It's been awhile since I have seen you post, and ole' Harrybaby just wants to say that I know how you are feeling, as I haven't been feeling too well myself lately, and to hopefully encourage you by saying that my father's heart failure, in the past hadn't been doing well, his EF was down into the low 30's and it was back up into the 40's this past visit with his echo, so I hope that you are not feeling too discouraged, as things can change for the better (it IS strange how Mother Nature works isn't it?) anyway, I am sending you tons of (((((((((((((((Harrybaby Hugs)))))))))))))))) from way up here in New Hampshire. Your always in my thoughts and prayers. Harrybaby:D :D :D :D :D
 
Niki, I'm sorry to see you've had more bad news. I guess the only positive about this is you have some really bright folks trying to figure it out... so if there's anything that can be done, they'll think of it. Hang in there. I'll send good thoughts and prayers your way.
 
I wish you had gotten better news. But it's good to know that your doctors are working hard for you. I tend to believe that there's always a solution to whatever problems we face so try not to be discouraged! :)
 
So sorry the news was discouraging, but it sounds like you have many good docs looking for a solution and we send our best wishes your way.
 
Niki-

I am sorry to hear this news. But I know you have a very caring and excellent card. And I know a game plan will be developed for you.

You will be in my thoughts and hopes that things will get better.

You know my motto, and it has stood the "Joe" test many times over.
 
Niki, I'm sorry the results weren't better, but it sounds like your doc is on top of things, and I like the idea of her consulting other doctors' opinions. Keep your chin up, and we'll help any way we can. LINDA
 
I'm sorry you've had discouraging news but feel it very hopeful your doctor is consulting with other docs. You have some very able people looking for the best treatment plan for you.

Sending you all good wishes.

Would someone mind explaining what a MUGGA scan is. Thanks if you can do that.

I will google it to see what I learn, as well.
 
Niki, I'm sorry it seems that you can't catch a break. It sounds like your doctor is on the hunt and inviting other good brains to the party.
 
Niki, my thoughts are certainly with you, friend. It does sound like you are in very good hands though. Keep the faith, and please keep us informed.
 
Gnusgal said:
The thing that stinks is, I feel like I just can't win.

*sighs*

I know _exactly_ what you mean, Niki ... all too well.

Very sorry the results were less than stellar for you. Thoughts/prayers are coming your way, of course.



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Thanks, everyone for your kindness. I am very lucky to have my cardiologist, because she always makes sure to consult the very best. She tries to leave no stone unturned. Unfortunately, it sometimes feels as if we're fighting a loosing battle. :(

Jkm7- A MUGGA scan is a test that I've had 4 times now. Essentially, they send radiation through the blood stream and watch it go through my heart using some sort of x-ray machine that records the whole process. This allows them to measure the pressures more accurately than with an echo because excessive scar tissue has made it very difficult to get a good echo on me. Usually they take some blood out, tag it with radiation, then put that blood back in. But this time, apparently that stuff was on backorder, so they had to go back to the "old" way of doing it. They put something into my blood before putting the radiation straight into the bloodstream. They never took any blood out for this one. It's a fairly painless procedure, except for the IV stick. And having to lay with your arms above your head for what feels like forever. ;)

Again, thank you all for your supportive words.
 
Niki

I would absolutely focus on the fact that it sounds as though you have a WONDERFUL cardio who IS going to come up with a plan of action for you. If it takes a month, so be it, but she's agressive and definitely on your side. I truly think she's the exception to the rule.

I will be thinking of you and putting you in my prayers.

Evelyn
 
EVELYN said:
Niki

I would absolutely focus on the fact that it sounds as though you have a WONDERFUL cardio who IS going to come up with a plan of action for you. If it takes a month, so be it, but she's agressive and definitely on your side. I truly think she's the exception to the rule.
I will be thinking of you and putting you in my prayers.
Evelyn

Niki,
Evelyn said it better than I could. You've got a cardio who has your back.
Stay positive, and we'll keep the prayers headed your way.
Mary
 
LUVMyBirman said:
Can you exercise? Doing so actually increased my decreasing EF.
The only exercise I can really do is VERY low impact, like pilates or yoga. Anything else completely wipes me out, not to mention making my heart race at the slightest exertion... Which means the stress test should be loads of fun! :rolleyes:
 
Ditto to Evelyn's post! and you know everyone here is pulling for you too!
 
Update

Update

Okay, I have a little more news, though not much.

First of all, trying to schedule this stinkin' stress test is stressful enough in and of itself. My card wanted me to schedule it with my EP and talked to him about it 2 weeks ago. I was given the impression that his office would call me. When two days passed and they hadn't, I tried calling them. I was given to the voice mail of their "scheduler" and left a message. Didn't get a call back that day, or the next morning. SO I tried calling again. This time I actually spoke to the scheduler and told her what I needed. She said she'd have to talk to the doctor and she'd call me back... 6 hours later I still hadn't heard from her. So I called again. She tells me she hasn't talked to the doc yet, but he's just walked into a patient room and will catch him when he comes out and call me right back... I never heard from her. The next morning I call AGAIN. I get her voice mail and leave a message. You guessed it... I still didn't hear from her. So I call again and this time she's gone for the day! I asked if there was anyone else who could help me because I have no faith in this person calling me back. I'm told that the office manager will... call me back. 30 minutes later (and 15 minutes 'til closing) I still hadn't heard anything, so I called AGAIN. This time, I get put through to the office manager. When I explained what was going on she was very appologetic and said that they had just fired their scheduler for this very thing. When I told her WHEN I'd made these phone calls she responded "Oh, no. Don't tell me my new girl is doing the same thing!" Yes, yes she is. So the OM tells me she'll get right on it and take care of it herself. She even said she'd call me that evening around 8 to let me know what she'd found out. Low and behold, someone in their office was ACTUALLY capable of making a phone call! I got the call, but still did not have my stress test scheduled. She said she'd call me in the morning... Morning comes and is nearly gone and still no phone call. I call them, asking for the OM (she told me to) and she tells me she's waiting to hear from the doc. Apparently when they let the old scheduler go the doc started scheduling his own procedures and no one other than him knew his schedule (What?!). She says she'll send him a message and hopefully she'll hear from him by afternoon. Guess what... No phone call. The doc didn't even call her, nor did his nurse, who she says she paged and emailed several times. She tells me that she'll get it handled and call me. Nothing. By Friday I'm still hearing the same song and dance. She tells me that go into the office especially and she'll call me on Saturday. No phone call. So here it is Monday, and once again I'm calling. This is when she tells me that no one in their office knows how to order this kind of stress test, because it's so rare (an MVO2). I'm confused by this, since I've had at least 4 that I can remember. I told her this and she asks who did them. I told her, and then recommended that she call my card to find out what needs to be done. And I FINALLY got a phone call back from her around 4 o'clock today (after I'd called her 2 times before that)! I'm "tentitively" scheduled for Thursday at 1, with some other doctor!? When I told my card all of this she said if she'd known they were going to schedule it with another doc she would have scheduled it herself. :rolleyes:

Okay, so that's the saga thus far on my stress test (I did say it was stressful). On to what my card had to say about the conference with the other cards.

My card says that she presented my case to cards such as Carol Warnes and Gary Webb. And even they aren't sure if the beta blockers are helping or harming. Apparently there isn't enough data yet to know if treating ventricular disfunction with betablockers is the right thing to do. It's only a guess. So right now we're going to wait on the results of the MVO2 and decide from there if we're going to cut back on my toprol. I think my card is leaning that way at the moment. She talked about cutting that back, then trying to increase my vasotec some more (right now I can't do any more because I'm light headed enough at the 40 mg/day), then add aldactone to the mix.

The other thing she talked to me about is sending me off to either the Mayo or Dr. Webb (he's in Philly now, though he used to be in Toronto). She asked me if I had a preference. Personally, I want to go with whatever will get me the most answers, but I don't know who that would be. The advantage of going to the Mayo is that Dr. Sebrina Phillips (one of the ACHD cards at the Mayo) has seen me (when she was in Texas) and knows my case. Dr. Webb, on the other hand has never seen me personally, but my card did send him my files when we were considering my valve replacement 4 years ago, so he's not completely unfamiliar with my case. My card tole me to talk it over with my husband and figure out where we'd rather go... I don't have a clue. Plus, we still have to figure out if insurance will pay for it, and how we'll pay for the flight and hotel to get to/stay in either place, not to mention finding a time when I won't miss school (work). I told my card the soonest I'd be able to do anything would be Thanksgiving, but my husband is thinking more along the lines of Spring Break. I had hoped to actually get to go on a vacation with my husband this year for Spring Break :( ... Oh, well.

Anyway, I just had to vent. I know you all can't make a decision for me, but does anyone have an opinion?

Thanks,
 
Nikki, I am sorry this is being so much harder than it has to be.I did want to let you know that there are Orgs that will fly you for free for medical things, if you can't afford it , Lyn
 
You should have been hooked up to a Holter Monitor during your scheduling nightmare and that could have sufficed as your stress test.

I'm glad you have these doctors all discussing your case and working on ways to proceed and solutions. Hang in there!
 

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