Will the Swine Flu become pandemic?

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http://www.cdc.gov/swineflu/investigation.htm

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It is at phase 3 now:

In Phase 3, an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus has caused sporadic cases or small clusters of disease in people, but has not resulted in human-to-human transmission sufficient to sustain community-level outbreaks. Limited human-to-human transmission may occur under some circumstances, for example, when there is close contact between an infected person and an unprotected caregiver. However, limited transmission under such restricted circumstances does not indicate that the virus has gained the level of transmissibility among humans necessary to cause a pandemic.

In nature, influenza viruses circulate continuously among animals, especially birds. Even though such viruses might theoretically develop into pandemic viruses, in Phase 1 no viruses circulating among animals have been reported to cause infections in humans.

In Phase 2 an animal influenza virus circulating among domesticated or wild animals is known to have caused infection in humans, and is therefore considered a potential pandemic threat.

In Phase 3, an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus has caused sporadic cases or small clusters of disease in people, but has not resulted in human-to-human transmission sufficient to sustain community-level outbreaks. Limited human-to-human transmission may occur under some circumstances, for example, when there is close contact between an infected person and an unprotected caregiver. However, limited transmission under such restricted circumstances does not indicate that the virus has gained the level of transmissibility among humans necessary to cause a pandemic.

Phase 4 is characterized by verified human-to-human transmission of an animal or human-animal influenza reassortant virus able to cause “community-level outbreaks.” The ability to cause sustained disease outbreaks in a community marks a significant upwards shift in the risk for a pandemic. Any country that suspects or has verified such an event should urgently consult with WHO so that the situation can be jointly assessed and a decision made by the affected country if implementation of a rapid pandemic containment operation is warranted. Phase 4 indicates a significant increase in risk of a pandemic but does not necessarily mean that a pandemic is a forgone conclusion.

Phase 5 is characterized by human-to-human spread of the virus into at least two countries in one WHO region (Figure 4). While most countries will not be affected at this stage, the declaration of Phase 5 is a strong signal that a pandemic is imminent and that the time to finalize the organization, communication, and implementation of the planned mitigation measures is short.

Phase 6, the pandemic phase, is characterized by community level outbreaks in at least one other country in a different WHO region in addition to the criteria defined in Phase 5. Designation of this phase will indicate that a global pandemic is under way.

During the post-peak period, pandemic disease levels in most countries with adequate surveillance will have dropped below peak observed levels. The post-peak period signifies that pandemic activity appears to be decreasing; however, it is uncertain if additional waves will occur and countries will need to be prepared for a second wave.

Previous pandemics have been characterized by waves of activity spread over months. Once the level of disease activity drops, a critical communications task will be to balance this information with the possibility of another wave. Pandemic waves can be separated by months and an immediate “at-ease” signal may be premature.

In the post-pandemic period, influenza disease activity will have returned to levels normally seen for seasonal influenza. It is expected that the pandemic virus will behave as a seasonal influenza A virus. At this stage, it is important to maintain surveillance and update pandemic preparedness and response plans accordingly. An intensive phase of recovery and evaluation may be required.
 
So where were all the president's men when the decision was made for Obama to go to Mexico City where 68 people have died from this flu? Can we say "Duh"!!!!

I think this is only the beginning of a huge problem whether it becomes an official pandemic or not.
 
Let's just hope it doesn't come to fruition. If it does it will be a disater.
 
Just heard on the news that the WHO is going to reclassify this as Phase 4 sometime shortly. 20 cases now, 1 in Ohio.

April 26, 2009 12:45 ET

Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection have been identified in the United States. Human cases of swine influenza A (H1N1) virus infection also have been identified internationally. The current U.S. case count is provided below.

U.S. Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection State # of laboratory
confirmed cases
California 7 cases
Kansas 2 cases
New York City 8 cases
Ohio 1 case
Texas 2 cases
TOTAL COUNT 20 cases
International Human Cases of Swine Flu Infection
See: World Health Organization
As of April 26, 2009 9:00 AM ET
 
The US has declared a public health emergency so I would expect a Phase 4 also very shortly since this is obviously multiple cases and person to person contact.
 
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about a month ago, one of the doctors nurses next door to my business "ordered me" to get inside and have my winter flu vacination. obviously the new zealand government thinks it is a good idea for heart patients as it has got a 100% subsidy.

can anyone comment on the threat, if any, swine flu poses for us heart patients? should we get a supply of tamiflu? just in case?

perhaps i am digressing too far, but yesterday i phoned mrs westie who is doing some mathematics research in new york (nyu) and said i bet she wished she was at home on our little farm far away from the swine flue. well i woke up this morning to hear on the radio that kids from the school close to my business had just come back from mexico with swine flu and that kids from two other schools nearby were also comming back from mexico with at least some of them infected!

gee wizz, these kids flit off to mexico for soccer games and spanish conversation, i did not even get to go to the movies when i was a kid.

no one here seems too fussed about the flu though some government minister, maybe the deputy prime minister, got on tv and told us to take it seriously and stop fooling round. mmmm, well the pub was really full tonight.
 
hey,

I wouldnt be too preemptive about this, practicing good hygeine and avoiding sick people is probably more imporntant than getting ahold of some tamiflu, plus, I dont think docs will be giving it out preemptively, if they did they wouldnt have enough supply for the people who really need it. yes, as heart patients we should be paying attention cause we are more at risk for complications, but at this point I dont think we need to be doing anything more than being vigilant about staying away from sick people and washing hands and stuff.
 
My own GP has either just returned, or about to return from Mexico and the poor man is terrified of needles - don't laugh, he can stick them in people but won't have them stuck into him. :)

The UK says it is well prepared and I know locally my island certainly is, yesterday they said stocks of anti-viral Tamiflu, stocked in preparation for bird flu and effective against the flu, were enough to treat the island's population.

I am sure it will be free if needed, it has already been bought by our health authorities.
 
Westie I have a thread running in small talk already. I may combine mine and yours soon.

As for heart patients and swine flu, our systems have already be knocked around enough that it makes it easier for us to catch things. I guess we could say we have compromised immune systems.

I'm worried about. Our states first case is 50 miles away from me and my wife works with a bunch of Mexicans that travel back and forth between home and here, so the likelihood of it showing up at her work place is extremely high.
 
My husband is getting ready to fly into Mexico in a little over a week. I really don't want him to go. He is just going to be flying thru the airport to get to his final destination outside of Mexico. He is going to take some Relenza with him and I am going to make him wear a face mask while he is there. He is travelling with two Dr's so that does give me some peace of mind, but not much.
 
WHO to consider raising pandemic threat level
The World Health Organization and the U.S. were following a playbook of precautions developed over the past five years to prepare for the next super-flu. The WHO on Saturday asked all countries to step up detection of this strain of A/H1N1 swine flu and will reconsider on Tuesday whether to raise the pandemic threat level, in turn triggering additional actions.

A potential pandemic virus is defined, among other things, as a novel strain that’s not easily treated. This new strain can be treated with Tamiflu and Relenza, but not two older flu drugs. Also, the WHO wants to know if it’s easily spread from one person to a second who then spreads it again — something U.S. officials suspect and are investigating.
 
I wanted to post up something last night, but didn't want to be the first. Yes, I am concerned. I'm preparing for mitral valve replacement. I think that as a heart patient, I certainly am more at risk than the average, especially in the time just after surgery.

We have to be more aware of good hygeine, but if there is a pandemic, that's not going to be a good thing, especially for any of us. I'm the first in line, if a shot is available. Not being paranoid, just being cautious.
 
We are going to be on a cruise ship soon. If anyone becomes ill with something such as swine flu, it likely would spread through the ship rapidly.

If this whole thing has not quieted by the time we leave, do you think it wise to call my PC and ask for an Rx for tamilfu or relenza to bring with me? Would she be annoyed with me for requesting it and likely think it not necessary? It scares me to think I could be on the ship and unable to obtain meds if I needed them.
 
Until we take such things seriously, the danger of a pandemic is high. The problem is everyone goes out when they are sick. Just listen in restaurants, movie theatres, even work places. Once it becomes so widespread we are all in danger - it is too late. There is nothing wrong with being proactive.
 
I think it pertinent that people are contagious and infecting others before they even know they themselves are ill. Coughing and sneezing and dirty hands etc can spread it before someone even has a fever.

I am not an hysterical person but am a high risk person. If I were to be on a cruise ship, contract this flu and not have access to appropriate meds, it could be bad. That is not hysteria. It is careful planning in advance to take the best possible care of myself.
If at the time we are preparing to leave there are still cases being reported, I probably will ask one of my doctors for a Rx to bring along.

Is that a reasonable request of one's doctor or would they consider it unnecessary, do you think?
 
i think that it is reasonable, what would it hurt to take tamiflu along with you and it cant hurt to ask, i ask about things all of the time, i guess i get on their nerves, but that is what we pay them for, so we can ask.
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My husband is getting ready to fly into Mexico in a little over a week. I really don't want him to go. He is just going to be flying thru the airport to get to his final destination outside of Mexico. He is going to take some Relenza with him and I am going to make him wear a face mask while he is there. He is travelling with two Dr's so that does give me some peace of mind, but not much.

They are having press conferences on the news channels right now as we speak Kimmie & they are discouraging travel to Mexico & now to the US as well. :eek:

Is there anyway he (your husband) can postpone or cancel his travel to Mexico? It is concernng for him but also very much for you due to your present state of health.

It's very concerning anyway you look at it! :eek:
 
I think it pertinent that people are contagious and infecting others before they even know they themselves are ill. Coughing and sneezing and dirty hands etc can spread it before someone even has a fever.

I am not an hysterical person but am a high risk person. If I were to be on a cruise ship, contract this flu and not have access to appropriate meds, it could be bad. That is not hysteria. It is careful planning in advance to take the best possible care of myself.
If at the time we are preparing to leave there are still cases being reported, I probably will ask one of my doctors for a Rx to bring along.

Is that a reasonable request of one's doctor or would they consider it unnecessary, do you think?

I am with you on this one & if I were embarking on a cruise, I would definitely ask my doctor for an Rx for an antibiotic to take with me.
 
Until we take such things seriously, the danger of a pandemic is high. The problem is everyone goes out when they are sick. Just listen in restaurants, movie theatres, even work places. Once it becomes so widespread we are all in danger - it is too late. There is nothing wrong with being proactive.

The scary part about it is, that even if one decides to stay home & not mingle with the public, you could even pick up the virus from a piece of mail you open or from food packaging that's been handled by someone that's infected. :eek:
 
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