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Texanbarbie

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Hi everyone. I’ve been perusing this forum for a few weeks now and decided it was time to introduce myself and ask some questions. First I want to thank everyone for the very informative posts !

A little background info: I had a chest CT in 2008 for shortness of breath and a 4.4 cm ascending aortic aneurysm was discovered so was sent for an echocardiogram a week later. The echo showed a bicuspid valve, mild mitral regurgitation, moderate tricuspid regurgitation and mild aortic regurgitation, and mild dilation of right atrium. My GP never discussed these findings and I only found out by getting my own copy of the echo. Meanwhile I moved to another state and was still experiencing SOB so visited another GP and had another echo which showed mild mitral and tricuspid insufficiency and mild right atrial enlargement. This GP also never discussed these findings so I got my copy of the echo and decided I must be okay, otherwise, wouldn’t one of the GPs tell me?

Fast forward to 2011. I was having some lower abdominal pains and my gastroenterologist had me scanned (can’t remember if it was an MRI) and there was something in my lungs he couldn’t identify so he sent me to a pulmonologist who sent me for a chest CT and it showed the ascending aortic aneurysm at 4.3 cm. However, he never said anything about this. He actually sent me to a thoracic surgeon to see if I should have a lung biopsy. Thankfully, this surgeon told me that having a BAV as well as the aneurysm warranted me seeing a cardiologist. So that’s where I have been - - seeing a cardiologist every year for an MRA and a visit to refill my Losartan 25 mg. since 2011. Except after this last visit. My cardiologist told me I needed at least 30 minutes of real exercise which will get my heart pumping - - not just the walking and gardening that I currently do. So, I started riding an exercise bike to warm up, then walking/jogging on a treadmill. The first day I rode the bike I had to stop after 1 minute because I was so out of breathe. I thought, man, I’m really out of shape! (which I’m actually not, I use to run 3 or 4 times a week, until my knees wore out) Anyway, I tried the bike again the next day, then the next and the same thing happened. After I caught my breath, I eventually walked and jogged on the treadmill and it wasn’t real bad, but bad enough. The next week I tried it again for 2 days and the same thing happened. So I called my cardiologist and he sent me for a nuclear stress test which came back normal except the LVEF was 82%. His nurse called me and said the test was normal and when I asked about the high LVEF, she said that was great - the higher, the better! When I told her that 82% was not in the normal range, she asked a cardiologist standing next to her (not mine) and he told her it was probably due to my fasting for the test. What ???? Anyway, I told her I still needed the SOB checked out so after talking with my cardiologist, they scheduled me for an echo for this Thursday.

Anyone have any comments on the high LVEF? I also have almost fainted a few times in the last few months (while shore fishing) and now have developed a dry cough. My blood pressure is mostly low - - today it was 95/68.

Another question I have is which is more accurate for measuring the size of the aneurysm - MRA or CT? The CTs came back with 4.3 and 4.4 while the MRA has come back 4.0 and 4.1.

Also, after looking at my records, I’ve noticed in addition to the dilation of the ascending aorta, the measurement of the sinus of valsalva has grown from 3.2 cm in 2008 to 4.07 in 2014. I’m scheduled for my annual MRA next month which should give new readiings.

Thanks again for this great forum and for the wealth of knowledge I’ve acquired! Up until I developed the recent SOB, I never thought about the BAV or aneurysm. I was only told by my first cardiologist that when it gets to 5.0 I would need surgery and they would repair the BAV also. I changed cardiologist to one in my local area and he NEVER talks about the BAV or aneurysm. After my yearly EKG and MRA he tells me everything looks fine, get more exercise and see you in a year.
 
I cant speak as to what's more accurate an mri or a ct other than my surgeon seems to prefer a ct. The fact that you have a BAV and an ascending aneurysm and your cardiologist doesn't discuss seems insane to me.
 
cldlhd;n858838 said:
I cant speak as to what's more accurate an mri or a ct other than my surgeon seems to prefer a ct. The fact that you have a BAV and an ascending aneurysm and your cardiologist doesn't discuss seems insane to me.
agreed

Texanbarbie I suggest you get another opinion (and another cardiologist)
 
Do you live in the Houston area? If yes, try someone at the medical center. I'm having surgery tomorrow so won't be able to respond to any questions for a few days but I agree that you need a more experienced cardiologist.
 
I must be okay, otherwise, wouldn’t one of the GPs tell me?
Three doctors failed to tell me that I had an aortic aneurysm. It was only because I requested a copy of a test for something completely unrelated that I found out. Subsequent testing showed the aneurysm to be 5cm which qualified me for surgery - which I had. (Since 2014 the general criteria is 5.5cm, even with BAV). It's always good to get copies of your test results and if something concerns you, ask about it. It's surprising that a Cardiologist would not discuss your BAV and aortic aneurysm, but "looks fine" may mean something different to someone that see's sick people all day long. I have an LVEF of 45% and the staff and Dr tells me that's good, they have patients with much lower numbers.

Re. CT vs. MRA, It's my understanding that CT is the best, but I thought MRA was pretty good so am surprised there is such a difference.

I don't know about having a high LVEF, but I would ask about it next time you see the Cardiologist.
 
Wow l so agree with everyone else that perhaps a new or more knowledgeable cardiologist would be in order ! I would really push for a matter of fact discussion. I think that mild to moderate regurgitation & stenosis of both aorta and mitral are in need of monitoring over time still it can sometimes take time for them to move to moderate to severe. EF sounds high for sure but l would be most concerned with BAV . It is very frustrating when you don't get straight answers. I am Most curtainly not a Doctor but my own experience l know it took 3 yrs to go from mild to sever aortic valve where as my Mitral has been sever for 3 yrs now .. and both together makes it very difficult now to function properly some days at all. Sob and dry cough are my worse symptoms but 3 yrs ago l would cough up blood as well .. and forsure cough gets worse at night lying down like dornole mentioned. The coughing up blood hasn't done that for awhile now. Also have lung disease.
I sure hope you find some answers soon. II now l had an mri that revealed alot but don't kniw if it is more accurate or not.
Good luck.
 
Thanks everyone for your comments ! I agree wholeheartedly that I need a cardiologist who is more communicative about my BAV and aneurysm. He is not a valve specialist, but rather an interventional cardiologist. I plan to schedule an appt with him after my echo which is tomorrow and MRA which is in a couple of weeks. After that appointment, if he is still unconcerned, I plan to travel to Houston (3 hr drive) to see honeybunny's cardiologist Dr. Diez.

dornole My cough is pretty random, but not really when lying down. I don't have allergies or a cold or any other symptoms, so it seems a little strange to have a cough.
 
If the cough gets worse lying down - even to the extent you have to sleep in a chair and yes hacking up small amounts of blood like Harriet said - that's a red flag for pulmonary edema & congestive heart failure, which is why I was asking. When my mitral valve was at its worst, I had this symptom. Delivering twins (to lessen load on the heart) and then subsequent valvuloplasty corrected it.

Sure you you find answers.
 
Thank you @harriettW and dornole for your comments about cough. I will keep a close watch for any change such as getting worse when lying down or coughing up blood! So sorry to hear you both had/have this symptom !
 
My cardiologist held off 5-6 months telling me about my aneurysm. I had just had a stroke so I think she didn't want to overwhelm me. She "saved" me months of needless worrying..... I was pissed at first but got over it eventually.
 
ALLBETTERNOW!;n858902 said:
My cardiologist held off 5-6 months telling me about my aneurysm. I had just had a stroke so I think she didn't want to overwhelm me. She "saved" me months of needless worrying..... I was pissed at first but got over it eventually.

I guess it would depend on the size of the aneurysm and how well the cardiologist knew your lifestyle. Personally I would be extremely pissed if that was kept from me as I'm prone to lifting heavy things from time to time. I'd rather know about it and worry then figure out a course of action rather go face down in the dirt while lifting an 80 lb bag of concrete.
 
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cldlhd;n858909 said:
I guess it would depend on the size of the aneurysm and how well the cardiologist knew your lifestyle. Personally I would be extremely pissed if that was kept from me as I'm prone to lifting heavy things from time to time. I'd rather know about it and worry then figure out a course of action rather go face down in the dirt while lifting an 80 lb bag of concrete.

It was a 4.9. She did give me a lifting ban but made it seem like it was stroke related and only after I moved a few window air conditioners around
 

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