Ebay and Coaguchek PT Strips

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Dave Brason

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I self-test for PT INR and I ordered Coaguchek PT strips on Ebay for the first time. The seller came across my credit card as JAPINTL and I received an email from Lynwood Deals advising me that my order has shipped. Does anyone have experience ordering strips off of Ebay? It just seemed a little sketchy to me with the different names. Thanks!
 

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I would never buy any kind of testing strips from ebay. Not very reliable way for the strips could be expired by the time you get them. Best go to the company or from the pharmacy. Expired strips are less reliable.
 

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I've bought strips on eBay many times. The seller usually lists the expiration date. For CoaguChek XS strips, many listings state that they weren't part of the recalled lots.

Sellers on eBay may use different names from the names that process the payment. In some cases, they drop ship (in other words, the seller places the listing and takes the payment, and THEN orders the product from the company that actually ships it. This is kind of like buying at Amazon - the seller is NOT Amazon - the listing is on Amazon, and is shipped by Amazon).

I wouldn't worry about ordering strips on eBay. If there's a problem, eBay has a pretty good program for canceling sales, resolving disputes, and refunds. Most regular sellers avoid problems because they don't want to be prevented from selling again.
 

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Agree with Protimenow. Buying from sellers who clearly state the expiry date has worked for 6 years for me. If you don't mind buying more frequently, prices for lots with a relatively close expiry date tend to be less expensive. Me, I don't enjoy going shopping online any more often than I have to so I buy packages of 48 with the furthest off expiry I can find, so I only have to do it about 1x/year. I've had no problems this way with my current Coaguchek or my previous InRatio strips, and I have always ended up paying leas than if I tried to source them locally.
 

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The seller came across my credit card as JAPINTL and I received an email from Lynwood Deals advising me that my order has shipped. ... It just seemed a little sketchy to me with the different names. Thanks!
not to me, I frequently get stuff where the sellers details don't match the ebay name (like if you buy off me for instance).

As long as product meets description and it comes with the chip ... happy days. If not then that's what paypal buyer protection is all about :)
 

Dave Brason

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I've bought strips on eBay many times. The seller usually lists the expiration date. For CoaguChek XS strips, many listings state that they weren't part of the recalled lots.

Sellers on eBay may use different names from the names that process the payment. In some cases, they drop ship (in other words, the seller places the listing and takes the payment, and THEN orders the product from the company that actually ships it. This is kind of like buying at Amazon - the seller is NOT Amazon - the listing is on Amazon, and is shipped by Amazon).

I wouldn't worry about ordering strips on eBay. If there's a problem, eBay has a pretty good program for canceling sales, resolving disputes, and refunds. Most regular sellers avoid problems because they don't want to be prevented from selling again.
Thanks. Very helpful. Ironically, strips I bought through a company, Medex Supply, were recalled.
 

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I have been buying mine from eBay. Recently I bought 48 strips for $226. Every time it’s a different seller.
Same here. Been buying strips on eBay since 2012 ever since I found out that it’s cheaper than my co-pay on insurance.

I cross check my INR with a lab and do a coaguchek xs test shortly before the blood draw. So far with all of the years of testing I come within .1 of lab result. :)

My conclusion is that eBay / Amazon, etc., are ok so long as strips are not expired.
 

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If you buy off e-bay, you may not get notifications of a problem with the strips such as with the recent recall. I was notified first by my supplier and then by the manufacturer.

The strips could have been defective strip or defective meter chip, or a strip/chip mismatch and taken from the dumpster of the factory or out the side door by a dishonest employee. As a kid my dad used to get big syringes to use in water fights out of the garbage of a syringe manufacturer.

Depending upon the supplier (e.g. bob selling grandma's leftovers) the strips might not have been properly stored.

They could be repackaged to change the expiration date.

In my working class urban neighborhood there are routinely signs on posts asking to buy unused diabetic testing supplies. This is the "grey market" of medical supply, whether it be prescription medication, durable goods or testing supplies. Be careful and prudent if you buy your medical supplies on the "grey market". You bet your life on it.
 
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If you buy off e-bay, you may not get notifications of a problem with the strips such as with the recent recall. I was notified first by my supplier and then by the manufacturer.
True, but there have been a number of posts of the Roche recall on here, including copies of the letter with the batch reference numbers, so another benefit of being a member of Valvereplacement.org :)
 

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If you buy off e-bay, you may not get notifications of a problem with the strips such as with the recent recall. I was notified first by my supplier and then by the manufacturer.
interestingly I was not notified by either of my suppliers (both proper pharma supply businesses, one in Germany the other in Australia) and indeed I notified them, as I called and asked if they knew (which they didn't)

with respect to:
Be careful and prudent if you buy your medical supplies on the "grey market". You bet your life on it.
as far as I know there are totally zero fake strips for Roche Coaguchek on the market place, if ever you hear of any please do post that here. However as to products being properly branded with Roche, coming with the strips and code chips I would feel its very unlikely there is much more than can go wrong that would also not be able to go wrong in the rest of the supply chain for a pharmacy.

As to betting my life on it, that feels a bit melodramatic, and in my view the purpose of this forum is to make people feel comfortable (not stir anxieties) and help educate them. So even with the "Notification Issue" if you look at that declaration it is clear that inside the "normal range" is it a problem, inside one is totally fine, its only well outside the normal range (even stretching that to 2 ~ 3.5) there is stated as being (a quantified) difference. Were you to find yourself under or over that range then it would be prudent to seek your medical advice no matter what (if you weren't already a competent self manager you'd ask yourself).

As I often say, looking at your phone while driving is a far more real and present danger than this.
 
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Agreed.
I've bought CoaguChek strips and InRatio strips on eBay and have had no problems (other than the InRatio strips being inherently inaccurate - Alere sent me strips and THEY were inaccurate).

The only time I had an issue was early this month when I bought two XS strips for $5 - including shipping. This seller couldn't have made more than a dollar or two. These were granny's strips. He didn't know that they were part of a recalled lot. He didn't know anything about the recall. My reason for getting the strips in the first place was to reacquaint myself with the CoaguChek XS test process and, perhaps, get a value to compare to my Coag-Sense.

One thing to remember - as Pellicle also pointed out - was that if a value is way out of range, seek medical advice. (In my case, a recent erroneous lab result had me going to two labs and testing on two Coag-Sense meters. I was able to confirm, without doubt, that the first lab result was wrong). If INR is high - verify the result - retest, or test in a lab, or using another meter.
 

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