The Great ER Visit(s) Of Ross

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:mad:Once again I am not surprised by the lack of morals that some doctor's have. As you said, if you are in over your head, then man up right away and go find someone to give you help. God Bless the doctor who stuck up for you regarding the anti-coagulation issue. I sincerely hope that you will be able to put this behind you and get back on the road to a speedy recovery. You and your family are in my prayers.
 
Glad to hear that you are okay. Eat plenty of red meat so you can rebuild your blood supply.

I didn't read all the posts, but if your INR was in range, what do they think caused the crazy bleeding? Was it just the fact that you are anticoagulated to our "normal" point and the number of teeth you had removed? In general, someone properly anticoagulated should have never started bleeding this long after the original procedure. Right?
 
Ross, so sorry you had to go through this ordeal. I'm glad though that you finally saw a doctor who knew what to do. Hope you feel better soon. LINDA
 
\You can't imagine the thoughts running through my head when this guy is virtually saying he's done and going home.

Yikes Ross! You should contact Michael Moore about this - there's enough material in your story alone to make a sequel to Sicko: maybe he'd even call it Rosso! :p Imagine if the fire department showed up at your house, saw the flames, and said "Gee, there's nothing we can do. Let's just let it burn itself out!"

Let's all hope the worst is behind you. You've had enough drama for one lifetime.

Hopefully this will make you feel better:
 
Oh Ross what a horrible experience. Imagine if this was someone who knew nothing about being on coumadin. I probably would have died from the fright. I'm so glad you had an angel that took care of it.

Please don't give up you mean so much to all of us here. Keep us posted.
 
Eat plenty of red meat so you can rebuild your blood supply.

Lisa I'm laughing, but that's mean. Do you have any idea how bad I want to eat steak or even a stinkin burger?

When they stitched me up, they did so with dissolving stitches and I guess this one just dissolved alot faster then it should have. Thing is, it leaked from day one and I complained about it then, but it had stopped by appointment time. Then the flood gate opened and said, let us drain Ross's life.
 
So sorry you had to go through all that, Ross. Hopefully you will mend well now and no more of these horrible episodes. Take good care. It's time for some peace in your life.
 
Oops! I wasn't thinking!

There is beef baby food. It probably tastes disgusting, but maybe with lots of salt, seasoning, etc., it will be edible. There is also spinach baby food, which of course has Iron, but it looks so gross that I didn't even feed it to my kids!
 
What an horrible ordeal you had to go through, Ross

I am so sorry for you and :mad: about ER and ambulance system and all those that went wrong?! I am glad your angel showed up later and that all is over and I hope this is the last of your ordeals.

With my prayers,
 
OMG, that is scary! The doc took the whole day to stop the bleeding! It's a good thing you knew what you needed. Maybe you should send them a bill! Glad to hear you are home. Rest and worry about Ross.
 
One thing about being one of the oldest members here, I'm your crash test dummy. I go through it all and report it all just as it happens. Hopefully that counts for something amongst members, even if it does scare the hell out them from time to time. This stuff is not made up!
 
From Pairodocs-Laura

From Pairodocs-Laura

Ross,
Not that it even remotely excuses anything, but there is always supposed to be an attending physician to back up the resident, and they are supposed to come in under certain circumstances and when the resident requests assistance. When I was a first-year resident, the chief resident or senior resident backed us up, followed by notification of the attending for any admissions, surgeries, or deliveries. I guess that residents don't stay in-house any more, and get to go home after eleven so they aren't working more than 80 hours per week. I must admit that some of the most interesting things happened in the wee hours of the night, and the scariest, too. I know I did some things wrong, but by the Grace of God nothing that would have killed anyone; the few serious errors were avoided by discussion with the back-up docs. I had great training; I trained at Cook County Hospital and then small rural hospitals where you were "it". And yes, I have had to deal with a lot of coagulopathies because of it, including several "rat poison" intentional overdoses in suicide attempts.

I was always scared when I had to do things that were beyond my training or abilities. It felt like I was jumping out of an airplane with a parachute that someone else had packed and wondering, every time, if the 'chute was going to open and if it would open correctly. Perhaps your resident had never dealt with anyone with your problem. He was probably worried that he would give you a stroke if he gave you too much plasma, or a pulmonary embolus. It is much easier to transfuse someone than to resuscitate someone suffering from a pulmonary embolus. There is a lot of precedent in the medical field, including "first, do no harm", followed by "alleviate pain and suffering." The whole thing about "doing nothing is the worst thing you can do" is considered a cowboy attitude these days, and courts take a dim view of it.

If you must blame someone, blame it on the attending physicians, who are responsible for their residents, or "greenhorns". In my opinion, they dropped the ball seriously in your case. No one likes to take ER call; if it's been days since you've gotten a full night's sleep, it's pretty difficult to be civil. But you still come in. It's better to be rude but present than to let the resident take the fall. It's been a major sticking point at every hospital where I have been an attending physician. There is a huge shortage of physicians, and no wonder. The guys in my group are nearing retirement age, and can't retire because of the stock market, but also because there are no replacements. I don't know how to fix the problem.

I've detailed my ER experiences previously, and I AM a doctor. I was literally begging them to admit Chris, and because all of our doctors had either retired, moved away, or changed jobs, we were considered "drop-ins", of all humiliations, and no one wanted to admit us. Fortunately, the hospitalist on call was a friend and used to see Chris years ago, and agreed to do it. The rest is history.

Chris and I are praying that your recovery is rapid and all is smooth sailing from now on. Ross, you're a good guy and people need your expertise and, and, well, they just need you.

Another Warm and Beautiful Fall Day in Idaho,
-Laura
 
Just wanted to say again; that I hope your feeling better today after this ugly ordeal.
You're tough and strong Ross don't sell yourself short - when push comes to shove - you DO push the hardest. All the power to you.
 
I think it is important to talk about things like this. They may never happen to anyone else, but if they do, then perhaps that person will remember something about your experience and that might just save their life.

My son-in law had a massive bleed from his intestines (diverticulosis) and he was hospitalized. They never transfused him and he passed out on the floor. He could have died or had a stroke.

So, when someone is losing a lot of blood, medical personnel have to pay attention.

You can't just go on and on and bleed forever. There is a point where life is in danger.

I think you were mighty close.
 
Jeesh, what a horrible ordeal. What's really amazing is that hospitals have access to all sorts of diagnostic resources on the web... surely they could have found some reference to anticoagulation problems...
Thank God someone appeared with some common sense. Let's hope this is the end of all this c$*%(#p
 
Ross,
I just can't beleive what an ordeal you went thru again.
Glad to hear you are back home and hopefully on the mend.
Stories like this bring back bad memories of what happened to my wife in '02.
I hope it's not because you two are from the same hometown.:eek:
In the meantime I will volunteer with Cooker to deliver that card.:D
A great and smart doctor who just happened to be drop dead gorgeous, you havn't lost all your luck.:)
Please hang in there,
Rich
 
I'm glad you lived thru this very frightening experience Ross! I know there's so many things you'd like to eat right now but can't. I know that lentils are a great source of iron. I remember when my step-daughter was pregnant, she was enemic so I would fix lots of lentils for her to try to rebuild her blood. She off course, thought I was trying to kill her :eek: but I know the lentils helped her!

You could have your better half cook them until very soft, put a little bit of melted butter in a pan, chop a little bit of onion & cook until soft & then spoon in the cooked lentils & let simmer for a little bit. I know you probably can't add salt because that's an ouchie for you right now too but you can season w/garlic powder & pepper. I also put in some unsalted, canned stewed tomatos to the onion when it's cooking before adding the lentils but I think the acid in the tomatoe is also out, right??

Anyway, glad you're better & safe at home now. :)
 

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