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zipper2

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These new neighbors moved in 5 months ago and tonight my husband
declined to come for a walk with our small chiuahua (CHICO) so we left
without him,Shantal my grandaughter came with us.
Out of nowhere where the new neighbors moved through this chewed up
fencing as in a movie,what looked the same speed to me ,jumped through
a hole in the fence he'd made sometime ago .......was the biggest ROTWEILLER (hope i spelled it right) up over the fence or through it and full speed running at us!!!!!!:eek::eek::eek:Chico jumped in my arms! My heart of course no response to any beat cus it's so not working right at this time,my grandaughter freaked and worst thing ran off to my house and left us standing there with this huge rotweiller. Anyway it all turned out for the good
no one was hurt my dog and i shook in fear,just then the owner's daughter came to rescue their rotweiller:).....AND A HAPPY ENDING!!!!:)


ZIPPER2
 
My son and his fiance are talking about coming home to live in Kilkenny. If they do, they will be staying here with us for a few months, and they have a Rotweiller cross german shephard... eeeek. Her name is Cloe and she is HUGH. I am terrified of big dogs and we have a teeny tiny Yorkshire terrier called Suzie. As much as I am delighted at the thought of having family, I am scared stiff of ''Cloe''.

If what happened to you, happened to me right now, I dread to think what my heart would do.
 
Zipper2 .... I'm glad all is well....it could have turned out different .... we have leash laws where I live but they are not always obeyed ..... When walking I carry protection in case confronted by an aggressive animal.
 
I was walking my little Shihtzu puppy, and a neighbor was walking her chow mix on a "gentle" lead. The chow was new to her, having just gotten the dog from the shelter. Her dog slipped out of the lead and came over and bit my dog all over and grabbed her by the neck. The neighbor was petrified, and did absolutely nothing to help. I managed to get my dog away from her dog and up into my arms, but I can tell you, my heart wasn't working right then either. It was scary. And I was worried that I'd get bitten too. My dog was covered with blood.

She ended up paying our vet bills.

My dog has a fear of other dogs now, and most people too.

So you were fortunate that it all ended up OK. It could have been a disaster.
 
Big dog/small dog

Big dog/small dog

That's a scary situation to find oneself in. Rotties are big and unfortunately have bee given a bad reputation.
Currently I have a large, female Rhodesian Ridgeback and a toy (10 lb.) neutered male Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, a toy breed. Well, it's the the toy that rules the dog roost here. Luckily for the cavalier, the ridge is a very decent dog. Otherwise ............. It was a Jack Russel terrier that put him in his place--another female.
We also used to have two Bouviers and a Tibetan terrier--all females. Well it was the Bouvs that bled from the bites on their feet--again the small dog ruled the roost.
So you just never know.
 
Our dog is big (120 lbs), but the dog nextdoor to our son's new house is like the dog from the movie The Sandlot (remember that movie). His name is Mosely and he some sort of Mastiff mix. He didnot like our dog Buckley AT ALL and I would have hated had something happened and Mosely got through the fence. But he was a very gentle dog with people (his owners have an 18 mo old and 3 yr. old sons) The 4th of July (otherwise known as "One Night in Hell" for most dogs) Mosely broke through their fence and came and hid in my son's garage. My DIL went out there to get something and there he was sitting, shaking like a leaf. The owners were at the fireworks, so my husband put him in our son's back yard. He nearly climbed through the dining room window in terror, so my DH went out and sat in the yard with him. I wish I had taken a picture. This dog DWARFED my 6'3" DH!
 
There are so many people who get by with not properly leasing or restraining their dogs, even with leash laws. It's not considerate to their neighbors, but some of them don't seem concerned about that.:mad:
 
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No breed specific prejudices, please.

No breed specific prejudices, please.

Zipper, I'm sorry you were frightened, and glad no one was hurt.

But, that said, it's the owners and the raising, not the breed itself, that matters most. Do you know the number one breed for bites in the US? It's the Labrador Retriever. Know why? Because they are a retriever, a mouthy type of breed that commonly uses its mouth as hands, and because they are numerically the number one breed in the US. Also because the definition of "bite" may include good old friendly mouthing behaviors, or, like my Jet, just being excitable, clutzy and grabby. She frequently reaches for toys and grabs hold of my hand by accident, and sometimes it smarts, but it's not aggressive by any means. Lies, damned lies and statistics, again.

In the UK, the Staffordshire Terrier is known as a wonderful family pet. Y'know how we colloquially refer to that breed in the US? The Pitbull terrier. Not that they are the same breed, but people, and animal control officers, don't know and don't care about the difference.

I've known some lovely sweet Staffies and Rotties in my 20 years training dogs, as well as lots and lots of absolutely awful min pins, shih tzus, cocker spaniels, etc. etc. small breeds. Please, let's not get on a breed specific band wagon here. I am as frightened of small loose dogs as I am of large ones. I don't know what any of them will do, and I regularly curse their irresponsible owners (frequently to said owners' faces).

If more people would properly socialize their dogs of all breeds, keep their fences in good repair, and use a leash, we'd all be happier. I hope Zipper's neighbors learned their lesson and will get the fence up to code (or better). If not, I recommend keeping their phone number and that of animal control handy. Some people don't learn until it hits them in the wallet.
 
Zipper2, I'm glad to hear that all is okay. The meanest dog I ever encountered was my uncle's chihuahua. Talk about a Napoleon complex!

We have lots of Pit Bull attacks in the Houston area; of course, there are lots of people around here that think it's fun to train Pit Bulls to fight or to protect their drug operations against intruders (otherwise known as policemen).

Once when we only had our Boxer, our gate was left open one day by a person who was in our backyard working on the neighbor's utility line. We were unaware of this at the time, but our neighborhood was still new, we have the easement, and our lot (a culdesac lot) has 3 adjoining lots behind it. Anyway, we let the dog out and noticed probably 20-30 minutes later that she wasn't in the backyard. We got in our cars and went looking for her and my husband found her with a constable. He lectured my husband about letting a dangerous Pit Bull run loose. My husband assured him that she was a Boxer, not a Pit Bull, explained the situation with the gate, and was able to retrieve her without further incident. During the conversation with the constable, Jo Boxer was sitting on the trunk of his car, licking him anytime he got close, which was often since he had put a short leash on her when he "caught" her. As most boxers, she is a lover, not a fighter, and would prefer to greet any human with her front paws on your chest and a big lick to the face. I'll admit that this can be scary (and gross).
 
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I've known some lovely sweet Staffies and Rotties in my 20 years training dogs, as well as lots and lots of absolutely awful min pins, shih tzus, cocker spaniels, etc. etc. small breeds. Please, let's not get on a breed specific band wagon here. I am as frightened of small loose dogs as I am of large ones. I don't know what any of them will do, and I regularly curse their irresponsible owners (frequently to said owners' faces).

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Is it not true though the whole pedigree dog breeding system was to identify and inbreed personality as well as physical type? Some breeders were trying to achieve a 'fighting spirit' by their breeding efforts. Then we get into the whole nature nurture debate. Would some breeds be naturally more aggressive or is it conditioned in them?

Jack Russells are a favourite around here. Their almost stupid, fearless tenacity, in confronting other dogs, (make that any other animals) is one of their attractions. It is a known characteristic of the breed.

Your point about owners control is well made. We have two Rhodesian Ridgebacks next door. Large intimidating animals, bred for lion hunting I believe. Their owner keeps them under strict control. His approach is the three of them are a pack and he is very much pack leader.
 
I don't get into breed debates, but I agree with Bonzo's points.
Specific breeds are bred, used, and "designed" for certain tasks.
Hounds sniff and track, retrievers love to hold and carry anything, guarding breeds love to guard, herding breeds love to herd, terriers will tunnel after vermin, etc.
Very simple but so often misunderstood.
 
We had a Siberian Husky in my teen years (and on - it's just that I moved out.) Anyone considering getting a Husky, I tell them to be careful because they are bred to run with sleds and they love to run. If they get out and away from you, they're off. We had many experiences with ours doing that and we bought our puppy in central Illinois, not the bastion of sled dog racing. We had friends get one a few years ago. If it gets out of their fenced in yard - they get in the car to go get it, they know it's fruitless to run after it because it won't stop until it gets exhausted.

Our Husky used to love to sleep outside in a snowbank. It was a very pretty sight.
 
Well more to it then meets the eye!:eek:
If sheepdog gets through his healing process after his
avr he may wanna bike up here!:p

Not just for the dog (LOL):rolleyes::cool:


zipper2
 
Sounds like a Roman Rottie. My sister in law has one. Most gentle thing I have met, but he weighs in at 180lbs. He's about the size of a full size Mastiff. He was just terrified of our Black Lab when he was a puppy. Big 'ole sissy is what he is, but we love him just the same.
 
From Pairodocs-Laura

From Pairodocs-Laura

We had a Siberian Husky in my teen years (and on - it's just that I moved out.) Anyone considering getting a Husky, I tell them to be careful because they are bred to run with sleds and they love to run. If they get out and away from you, they're off. We had many experiences with ours doing that and we bought our puppy in central Illinois, not the bastion of sled dog racing. We had friends get one a few years ago. If it gets out of their fenced in yard - they get in the car to go get it, they know it's fruitless to run after it because it won't stop until it gets exhausted.

Our Husky used to love to sleep outside in a snowbank. It was a very pretty sight.


Our older dog is half Malamute, half Lab. She is a big dog but very gentle. We got her in Alaska, and she loves being in the snow. She also has webbed feet and loves to swim (odd combo, since Labs hate snow and Malamutes hate water). It was funny, because she had a bare tummy as a puppy, and begged to be outside in 25-below weather. She was like a little mini-heater. Our other dog, a mutt with a mass of fur, had no tolerance for the cold whatsoever. As much as we hated to do it, we had to keep her chained up since my neighbor threatened to shoot her if he saw her in with his cattle. She's almost 12 years old now and we don't have to keep her restrained since she has difficulty getting over our fence, but she would go for miles when she got out. We tried attaching a cinder block with a chain-she dragged that cinder block with her over the fence. We tried to attach about 50 lbs of chains to her-no good, it was like Jacob Marley in A Christmas Carol and she roamed for miles. Malamutes are bred to travel under loads, and she is a very strong dog. Malamutes are also protective of their owners and owners' property, but also feel free to roam. All of Southern Idaho is her turf. Labs-well, everyone here has one, and they are promiscuous, have larger litters, and also love to roam.

My family and I have another dog, a Shih-Tzu, who is a pound puppy since he has a jaw malformation. He thinks everyone and every dog likes him.
He also thinks he is a tough farm dog, and escapes every chance he gets. I'm worried the neighbors truly tough farm dogs are going to eat him for lunch.

Sweltering in Idaho,
-Laura
 
Vick's dogs; Update

Vick's dogs; Update

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/07/06/ST2008070602429.html

Since we are on the topic, I just had to post this story updating the status of Michael Vick's former fighting dogs, which a friend sent me this morning. Bless their poor little hearts. I admit to using extreme caution around certain breeds until I know the individual (of course, that includes shih tzus and min pins). Rehabbing these guys takes someone far more brave and experienced than I am. I'm glad someone took the time and that the judge made Vicks pay for it. One dog is working as a therapy dog in a chemotherapy infusion clinic. So there, Michael-Vicks-you-big-creep.
 

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