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Superbob

Superbob

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Well my 15 mg of temazepam (generic for Restoril) no longer works so well as a sleep-inducer because here I am at 3 a.m. on dear old vr.com But I fear asking my doc for a stronger dose.(She might not give it to me anyway). So it's time to face the issue of how to kick the prescription drug and still find sleep. Except for the few months I've taken temazepam nightly, I haven't had many night's sleep since my surgery a year and a half ago.

Suggestions, anyone?
 
Take the stronger dose, but it too, will only last so long and you'll be right back to square one. It was working a bit for me. I couldn't stay asleep, but I could at least go back to sleep. I'm still taking it and I'm up and down all night long about every hour and a half. :(
 
I have sleep troubles too. even tho I take a ton of pain meds and something to help sleep, a few months ago, someonerecomended elatonin and it helped, I don't know if it interacts w/ any meds you are on, but alot of people that tried it seem to sleep alot better,
not sleeping is awful especially if you have any clocks that tick and let you know you just missed another min of sleep
 
I also have trouble sleeping and have had mixed results with Melatonin. Although I can't cite sources as of this writing, I have read results of studies that showed Melatonin was no more effective than a placebo in trials.
 
RobHol said:
Well my 15 mg of temazepam (generic for Restoril) no longer works so well as a sleep-inducer because here I am at 3 a.m. on dear old vr.com But I fear asking my doc for a stronger dose.(She might not give it to me anyway). So it's time to face the issue of how to kick the prescription drug and still find sleep. Except for the few months I've taken temazepam nightly, I haven't had many night's sleep since my surgery a year and a half ago.

Suggestions, anyone?
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Yes,
Shut your mind down when you go to bed, just like you do your computer.
Refusing to let any thoughts cross your mind is hard to do, but you eventually get the hang of it.
 
Mary said:
Yes,
Shut your mind down when you go to bed, just like you do your computer.
Refusing to let any thoughts cross your mind is hard to do, but you eventually get the hang of it.
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"Even thinking the thought, 'I'm not thinking a thought', is thinking". Therein lies the problem.;) :D ;)

I haven't slept well in years. I am one of those who have tried everything including self-hypnosis, pills, biofeedback, tapes, counting sheep, trying not to think, etc., etc., etc. When I try to sleep, even when my body is exhausted, I just cannot turn my mind off. I have finally given up and do sleep for a couple of hours here and there and try not to drive myself too crazy.:rolleyes: ;) :D
 
If you have a chance to nap during the day, can you get to sleep then?

I also have read that Melatonin and placebo study.

Ambien has a sustained release formula now to help you stay asleep, have you tried that. I know it's a very mild sleep aid (the 10mg works like a charm for me when I need it), but since the problem seems to be staying asleep, I'm wondering if a sustained release drug would work?

I haven't had the Ambien CR because I don't have a problem staying a sleep once I fall asleep.
 
I read in bed but that might not work for those who have somebody else in bed, too. It's like a sleeping pill to me. When I get sleepy enough to not know what I am reading, it's time for sleep. I put the book down, begin my prayers, using the five finger method, and never get to the second finger.
 
Mary said:
Yes,
Shut your mind down when you go to bed, just like you do your computer.
Refusing to let any thoughts cross your mind is hard to do, but you eventually get the hang of it.
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But there are so many beautiful women in the world. How is one to shut the mind down?

I've tried it all and asked as a last resort to try temazepam because it was working for Rob. None of them worked for me. Ambien is an expensive sugar pill. Melatonin didn't do squat either. It's very frustrating.
 
Ross said:
But there are so many beautiful women in the world. How is one to shut the mind down?
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Oh man, I just lost my lunch. You are such a "player" Ross.
 
Tylenol PM

Tylenol PM

Works for me..Just 1 pill...I took one last night..just ready for bed at 9 P.M.,,Heat had worn me out....I don't remember anything..until 5 a.m...when I awoke..well rested....Hubby told me..after I went to bed. we had an awful thunderstorm with 1 inch rain in 20 minutes. I never heard it.:eek: He was telling the truth because much pinebark washed down onto our sidewalks and fish pond was full.:eek: When I do take them..I take them early in the evening..so I don't have any sluggish feeling the next morning.. See where Advil Pm is now being advertised on Television..But, we Coumadin people cannot take those.........I normally go right to sleep, but if Hubby is snoring on his back..I have to awake and turn him over.:D Hard for me to fall back asleep. I notice the temp in the room, hot/cold, dog moving around. cat on bed, ect.....Ann, I hope your first finger has me on your prayer list:p Hate to think who is # 10.:D Bonnie
 
I thought I would add my 2 cents... I also have trouble sleeping and have tried everything, the only thing that works for me is valium. But, once I wake up, that is it, no more sleep, so I just get up and read or watch TV... Rose
 
Granbonny said:
Works for me..Just 1 pill...I took one last night..just ready for bed at 9 P.M.,,Heat had worn me out....I don't remember anything..until 5 a.m...when I awoke..well rested....Hubby told me..after I went to bed. we had an awful thunderstorm with 1 inch rain in 20 minutes. I never heard it.:eek: He was telling the truth because much pinebark washed down onto our sidewalks and fish pond was full.:eek: When I do take them..I take them early in the evening..so I don't have any sluggish feeling the next morning.. See where Advil Pm is now being advertised on Television..But, we Coumadin people cannot take those.........I normally go right to sleep, but if Hubby is snoring on his back..I have to awake and turn him over.:D Hard for me to fall back asleep. I notice the temp in the room, hot/cold, dog moving around. cat on bed, ect.....Ann, I hope your first finger has me on your prayer list:p Hate to think who is # 10.:D Bonnie
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Hon your so laid back that I don't doubt that you have no problems sleeping. Honestly, I wish I were the same way. Short of surgical grade anesthesia, I don't know what will put me to sleep and keep me asleep.
 
"Ann, I hope your first finger has me on your prayer list Hate to think who is # 10. Bonnie"

yep, you are. I try to get everybody I can on the thumb since I can never remember if I got to the forefinger.
 
Thanks!

Thanks!

I appreciate all the responses to this thread that I started in the middle of the night last night. As is often the case, it helps a lot just to know that others have been dealing with a similar problem, though in different ways.

I have the same problem that Gina described: try as I might, I just can't turn my mind off once I go to bed. It just keeps racing. Temazepam is in a class of drugs that actually slows down brain activity, and so that's why it's helped me some. But that's pretty scary, when you think about it. Everything I've read about it has said that it is intended for just 7-10 days use, but if you have used it for a couple of months (as I have) no way should you just stop cold turkey or bad things can happen. So I will see my doc soon (due for blood sugar tests etc anyway) and I will ask her recommendation. I'll let the forum know, since there seems to be a good deal of interest in this.

Again, thanks to all.
 
RobHol said:
. . .I have the same problem that Gina described: try as I might, I just can't turn my mind off once I go to bed. It just keeps racing. . . .Again, thanks to all.
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I suffered from the most horrible insomnia anyone has ever suffered from after my dad died. I was in college, far away from home, and worried beyond belief about my mother and my two younger sisters. It lasted until I was almost 30 years old. Then I learned to tell my mind to stop thinking after I got in bed (and said my prayers--can't sleep if I haven't).
Just think, "stop thinking." Say it over and over, not giving it a thought, just repeating the words, and you can put your mind in a place with no stimuli that allows you to drift off. You'll have to work on it every night, but it will work.

It also helps if you've done a pretty fair amount of physical exertion during the day. When I was getting up at 4 am and swimming a mile, five days a week, I had no difficulty sleeping, even if I drank several cups of coffee after dinner!

It can be done; just don't think about it so much!;) ;)
 
First - sorry to hear so many of you suffer with this. I don't know what it is like to deal with, however I would like to offer my method of falling asleep.

I have always worked odd hours, I like being able to do things when other people are at work. As a result I have had to adapt to some odd sleep patterns. Currently I work nights 3 nights a week and I flip my sleep schedule every week from sleeping during the day (2 days a week) to sleeping at night (4 days per week). I make up the other day with 2 naps.

I watch some TV, doesn't matter what, then I drink a glass of water, read for 15 minutes, go to the bedroom (no TV or books in the bedroom) lay on my stomach for 2 minutes flip to my back, queue my standard relaxing thought and fall asleep. I am usually asleep in 5 minutes. This also worked for me in the hospital after the surgery.

I read a book many years ago about sleeping and used the suggestions in that book to come up with the above (don't remember the name or author sorry). You basically train the body to fall asleep much the way Pavlov trained the dogs to salivate by ringing a bell. You have to develop your specific triggers that will tell your body it is time to go to sleep. It takes time and work and it's important that whatever triggers you set up be kept. If you are unable to fall asleep and start to get restless and toss and turn you need to leave the bedroom and try again.
 
David,
I think you've got a terrific method of falling asleep. Way to go!
 
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