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What I feared was not the cath, not the chest wires, not the jumper cables etc, but the breathing tube. However, I wound up being glad for it because I wasn't breathing very well on my own initially)....

That's my fear, too! Well, I guess I can't say I'm totally scared of it, but it's what I look forward to least when I wake from surgery. I really don't understand why everyone wakes up on a ventilator. Or maybe not everyone does, but just the people whose stories I've read. I hope I'm a "good breather" and they get rid of it fast!
 
That's my fear, too! Well, I guess I can't say I'm totally scared of it, but it's what I look forward to least when I wake from surgery. I really don't understand why everyone wakes up on a ventilator. Or maybe not everyone does, but just the people whose stories I've read. I hope I'm a "good breather" and they get rid of it fast!


Just from reading posts here for 3 1/2 years, I have the impression that the breathing tube is already out for many folks when they wake up, and if not, for most it's out quickly. If it has to stay in for an overtime period, as it was in my case, it's best just to go with the flow, so to speak, and not fight it. Think of it as doing your work for you for a little while. Ultimately, I found it not to be as bad as I had feared.
 
?what a nightmare. Does everyone get the cath?"

- AaronJ


This is something I know about because of all the kidney stone problems I've had. It isn't that bad. Really. A catheter coming out is a very quick experience, although going in, if you are awake, it is a challenge. They gave me the same breathing exercises that women use during childbirth while they were inserting it. However, if you suddenly can't urinate and end up in the emergency room, you are very motivated to let them try it.

For comparison, I found insertion of the cystoscopic scope during an office visit far worse. This one involved inserting a long tube through your penis and run up your bladder, where it clamped on to the stent that had been inserted, and then both were removed by the same route. I mention this only to assure you that I have had considerable conscious experience with devices more invasive than a catheter. It is fine while inside you, as long as you don?t move. Any movement had to be carefully and gingerly approached. Personally, I find the breathing tube much more frightening. I have a very strong and difficult to control gag reflex and I just know I'm going to have trouble with the breathing tube.

So, most people seem to be able to tolerate a catheter without too much trouble, and while everyone is happy to have it out, I doubt it will be too much on your mind with all the other things you are dealing with.
 
I can't believe I forgot to post this inspirational story for the guys!

When my Dad had surgery he wanted to get back to work right away. (He's a doctor.) And he could walk around without a problem, but for some reason I can't remember he still needed a catheter. So he did his job, walking around the hospital all day, wearing a catheter for three days!

(Yes, the nurses thought he was nuts. But as he said, what else was he going to do? Sit at home and rot his brain with daytime TV? It's not like he was going to go take a fun vacation!)
 
I would think that the urinary cath would be more troublesome for men....?? Mine was not noticeable at all.
Does Mr.Wiggly get taped down?


Mr. Wiggly -- LOL! That's Chimpspeak -- maybe The Chimp will respond to that. :p Superbob will only say that there is no way the Man of Steel could be restrained in that way.
:p:p:D
 
Fred,

I wouldn't worry too much about the breathing tube, if my experience was typical. I have only a vague memory of coming out of anesthesia and being aware that something was not right with my breathing. I have no recollection of the tube being removed, and my next memory is of my family being with me and being able to speak with them.

Cheers,
Harlan
 
Fred- I, too, was worried about the breathing tube and it wasn't as bad as I had feared........still not pleasant! I woke up after 10+ hours in the ICU and it was there- drat! They told me right away it would be out in a little over an hour and I watched the minute hand move on the clock. It was a slow hour for sure, but bearable. I gag easily, but that wasn't a problem for me. Removal was quick and easy. Good luck to you. I'm sure you'll do fine........
 
Fred,

I wouldn't worry too much about the breathing tube, if my experience was typical. I have only a vague memory of coming out of anesthesia and being aware that something was not right with my breathing. I have no recollection of the tube being removed, and my next memory is of my family being with me and being able to speak with them.

Cheers,
Harlan

My experience with the breathing tube both OHS was like this. I have a vague memory both times of waking and knowing I was still on the vent, I dozed off and the next I remember, the tube was out and my DH was with me.
 
Sorry I haven't been online in a while. As my wife said, I've been depressed as of late. Now for the subject...

When I was being diuresed aggressively, I tried to keep up with the urinal, but the effort to sit up was too much and lying down was too messy. So I accepted the offer for a foley catheter. What I didn't realize was that the two young women, one a student (almost certainly a teenage freshman at CSI--local community college) were not that experienced. The instructor assured me she had done this before, and the insertion was not too terribly painful, as they used a local anesthetic, but apparently they didn't know how far to insert it. I didn't feel relief from the building pressure and I had to bear down to urinate, resulting in urine coming out from around the tube onto my bed. :p I couldn't get help immediately, so I decided to take matters into my own hands. I could feel the balloon end pressure inside me, so I tried to push--lots of discomfort, then I thought of relaxing as if I was going to urinate, then I pushed again, while a trickle of urine came out. Suddenly I felt the end slide beyond the uncomfortable pressure point, and slip in about one inch further, and all discomfort stopped as did the dribbling urine. I tried to urinate, and, much to my relief--as it were--(no need to excuse the pun--remember I'm a former science professor! :D ) I felt my bladder empty painlessly--and not a drop leaked out beside the tube that time. From then on, until after it was removed, active urination was not a consideration anymore.

Removal wasn't particularly painful, either, just felt 'invasive', but in a way that to my mind was invasive as in "going to be no longer invasive very soon if I just relax and let it get pulled out." I relaxed my bladder sphincters like I was going to urinate and out came the foley without any trouble--only a slightly sickening feeling of 'dragging' on the interior of my urethra--about 2% the intensity of my chest tubes' removal. Then I had to wait a few hours until my bladder filled again. I tried to urinate, but nurses nearby plus 'bashful kidneys'--yes I know it's really bashful urethral sphincters--kept me unproductive. It took them playing a recording of running water plus having only Laura with me to finally get it out--I had a bm or two while trying as well. I really didn't want the foley back! However, from that point onward, all was well. :)

In another post I described, in full (as in somewhat disgusting at times) detail my intubation and extubation experience--I don't have memories of these events and, suffice it to say, I'm very glad of it. Laura's descriptions to me were plenty...

Chris
 
No worries you will wake up with the catheter after surgery and hardly know it is there. I felt very thankful for it, having also experienced this angio phenomenon. If there is any discomfort when it is removed, it will be very temporary.

Mark

This very similar to my experience. Had to pee after angio with nurse holding pressure on sight and wife holding urinal.. After surgery the catheter makes a non-issue. Once catheter is pulled it is slightly shy and uncomfortable the first couple of times (running warm water over my hand helped). After that no problem.
 
I was freaked out about the cath being removed but it really wasn't any big deal, certainly not painful. Odd sensation yes but no pain. Now when they told me that if I didn't pee 300ml in the next 6 hours they were going to put it back in, THAT freaked me out ! I sat on the edge of my bed for a good 45 minutes trying to kickstart things, thankfully everything started to flow, putting the cath awake is NOT what I wanted to deal with !
 
having the cath out was only second to having my drainage tubes removed from my chest as far as discomfort goes... actually it sounds worse than it is... I had a very very attractive night nurse which helped dull the pain..
best,
JD
 
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