Dental Infections?

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Gillian (in UK)

Hello everyone - what do I need to know about having a tooth abcess or whatever now that I have my new valve.

I am on antibiotics for an infection of a tooth under a bridge. I am seeing the dentist next Tuesday and the cardiologist says if she is going to "poke about in the gum" I should then change to another antibiotic to deal with the bugs that were resistant to the first antiobiotic.

Also my dentist wants me to have an apecectomy (removal of bottom of tooth under the gum) for a low grade infection on a tooth that has had a root canal treatment.

I feel like having all the offenders out and be done with the hassle. Presumably I have to be on antiobiotics for an extraction.

The dentist says I don't need to be on antiobiotics for a simple filling. Is that right?

:( :confused: :mad:
 
You are not alone!

You are not alone!

Greetings, Gillian,

I am currently in a similar situation needing dental work soon to deal with a couple of bomb craters in my teeth. I will be watching the replies as closely as you.

I just completed two cleaning sessions and pre-medicated both times with 2000mg of Amoxicillin (this IS the correct spelling-I proofed it from my prescription bottle).

Now I'm ready to for the next step, sort of. I'm still very paranoid about dental procedures. Nevertheless, it has to get done.

Have you visited the www.warfarininfo.com/dental-procedures.htm site? Al Lodwick is a specialist on the subject and he's usually pretty good about replying to these threads. VR.com member, Gina sounds like she's been through the dental "mill" before.

I now won't let a dentist even peak into my mouth without my having taken the antibiotics. Just safer that way. Luckily my dentist is pretty educated about my situation constantly reminding me to pre-medicate. Even his staff bugs me about it.

Onward!

PerryA
 
Yes Gillian.... Perry is right on. For a filling or any invasive procedure you will need to pre-medicate with your antibiotics.

Have not had an infection in my mouth....so not sure how they will handle you under the circumstances?? My guess at best would be a longer term antibiotic just like you would take for any other infection. If it varies from the Amoxicillin they still may have you taking both. Also, have heard of using IV of the going gets tough.

In our thoughts as always. You will be an old pro by the time this passes!

Take care,
 
Gina - Are you saying you take antibiotics for fillings. My dentist said I definitely didn't neet antibiotics if it was just a filling.
 
Hi Gillian

Yes, that is what the ADA (American Dental Association) recommends here in the US. I am going for a geral cleaning next week and will take 2000mg, = 4 - 500MG amoxcillin caps one hour prior to the proceedure and that's it.

Maybe something different in the UK? A filling may be considered less invasive than say an extraction or scaling. I have never bleed from a filling.....but they are opening up the tooth and giving the opportunity for the natural bacterium's in the mouth to enter.

Maybe a second opinion or try to find out if there is another association near you and look up their guidelines.
 
Hi Gillian

I speak from past experience on the effects of
dental work and infectious disease. Two years
ago I went to the dentist to have a infected tooth pulled.
Not knowing I was born with heart valve defects. Two
weeks later I was fighting for my life from the disease
endocarditis. I had emergency heart valve surgery to
replace my mitral valve.
Listen to your dr. He knows best. Yes you should
take another antibiotic which will help battle the different
strains of bacteria.
I know your probably worried. Just listen to your
dr.s and you should be just fine.
Before I see my dentist I take two types of antibiotics.



:) All the best to you Judy
 
Recommendations for Endocarditis Prophylaxis

Recommendations for Endocarditis Prophylaxis

http://www.caminomedicalgroup.com/PatientED/PE-0092-IM.html

Taken from: JAMA Dec 1990, VOL 264

Recommendations for Endocarditis Prophylaxis

Endocarditis Prophylaxis Recommended

Prosthetic cardiac valves including bioprosithetic and homograft valves.
Previous bacterial endocarditis, even in the absence of heart disease.
Most congenital cardiac malformations.
Rheumatic and other acquired valvular dysfunction, even after valvular surgery.
Hypertrophic cardiomyopathy
Mitral valve prolapse with valvular regurgitation

Endocarditis Prophylaxis Not Recommended

Isolated secundum atrial septal defect.
Surgical repair without residua beyond 6 mo. of secundum atrial septal defect, ventricular septal defect, or patient ductus arteriosus.
Previous coronary artery bypass graft surgery.
Mitral valve prolapse without valvular regurgitation.
Physiologic, functional or innocent heart murmurs.
Previous Kawasaki disease with valvular dysfunction
Previous rheumatic fever without valvular dysfunction
Cardiac pacemakers and implanted defibrillators.

This table lists selected conditions but is not meant to be all-inclusive.

Individuals who have a mitral valve prolapse associated with thickening and/or redundancy of the valve leaflets may be at increased risk for bacterial endocaditis, particularly men who are 45 years of age or older.

Endocarditis Prophylaxis Recommended for Some Dental or Surgical Procedures

Dental procedures known to induce gingival or mucosal bleeding, including professional cleaning.
Tonsillectomy and/or adenoidectomy
Surgical operations that involve intestinal or respiratory mucosa
Bronchoscopy with a rigid bronchoscope
Scierotherapy for esophageal varices
Esophageal dilatation
Gallbladder surgery
Cystoscopy
Urethral dilatation
Urethral cathetenzation if urinary tract infection is present
Urinary tract surgery if urinary tract infection is present
Prostatic surgery
Incision and drainage of infected tissue
Vaginal hyserectomy
Vaginal delivery in the presence of infection


Prophylaxis Not Recommended for These Procedures

Dental procedures not likely to induce gingival bleeding, such as simple adjustment of orthodonic appliances or fillings above the gum line.
Injection of local intraoral anesthetic (except intraligamentary injections)
Shedding of primary teeth
Tympanostomy tube insertion
Endotracheal intubation
Brochoscopy with a flexible branchoscope, with or without biopsy.
Cardiac catheterization
Endoscopy with or without gastrointestinal biopsy.
Cesarean section
Endoscopy with or without gastrointestinal biopsy
In the absence of infection for urethral catheterization, dilattation and curettage, uncomplicated vaginal delivery, therapeutic abortion, sterilization procedures, or insertion or removal of intrauterine devices.
This table lists selected procedures but is not meant to be all-inclusive.

In addition to prophylactic regimen for genitourinary procedures, antibiotic therapy should be directed against the most likely bacterial pathogen.



In patients who have prosthetic heart valves, a previous history of endocarditis, or surgically constructed system-pulmonary shunts or conduits, physicians may choose to administer prophylactic antibiotics even for low risk procedures that involve the lower respiratory, genitourinary, or gastrointestinal tracts.

Taken from: JAMA Dec 1990, VOL 264
 
Prophylaxis for Dental Procedures

Prophylaxis for Dental Procedures

http://www.westsubcardiology.com/pages/valve/endocarditis.htm

Prophylaxis for Dental Procedures

RECOMMENDED

Dental extraction
Periodontal procedures
Dental implant placement
Root Canal
Subgingival placement of antibiotic fibers or strips
Initial placement of orthodontic bands (not brackets)
Injections into the periosteum
Prophylactic teeth cleaning where bleeding is anticipated

NOT RECOMMENDED

Restorative dentistry-
includes filling cavities and
replacement of missing teeth (without significant bleeding)
Nonintraligamentary anesthetic injections
Intracanal endodontic treatment
Placement of rubber dams
Postop suture removal
Placement of removable appliances
Taking of oral impressions
Fluoride treatments
orthodontic appliance adjustments
Shedding of primary teeth
 
Thank you everyone for your replies.

And Ken, this is such interesting information. I'm sure a lot of people here will agree.

It makes me feel my dentist knows what she is doing.
 

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