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archkre

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Hi!: i've noticed some inconsistences among different sources regarding the Vitamin K content of :
Baby dills pickles (marinated cucumbers like classic in hamburgers), grapefruit , the wither kind of lettuce (don't remember the name) and olives appear as high/ medium /low n different lists!:mad:
Could anyone clarify the Vit K content of those products, please?
Thanks a lot
 
Please tell me that your not trying to regulate your INR by the amount of Vit k your finding in foods. It doesn't work and will only drive you insane. Use those values for reference only, but eat what you like and as much as you like and be consistent with your diet. Dose the diet you eat, do not diet the dose of the drug.
 
I'm with ross on this one, just eat what you want and dose to match.

However, i did read on my instruction sheet with my warafin that there are unpredictable results with the combination of warafin and grapefruit juice as well as cranberry juice.

No idea what the 'results' are but i have steered clear of both those type of juices.
 
I occasionally drink grapefruit juice, eat grapefruit and drink cranberry juice. I haven't had any problems.

Do a search at this forum for cranberry juice and you'll see that the concensus is it's not going to hurt you. Seems the problem stemmed from one person drinking lots and lots of cranberry juice in a very short time. My guess is the problem really resulted from a change in his diet, due to the extra cranberry juice.

I wouldn't worry.... Unless you plan to drink a gallon of juice a day. :D
 
A P.S. to my previous post:

If you suddenly start taking in more fluids than normal, your INR is apt to drop, all things being equal (food, Rxes, OTCs, exercise, etc.)

The reason is the warfarin will become more diluted in your blood.
 
mmm i suppose that could be assisting my inr rising as my fluid intake has dropped from the hospital induced water drinking marathon to normal intake today.
 
Nancy said:
Download this program from the government. It has just about EVERYTHING in it, very comprehensive.

http://www.ars.usda.gov/Services/docs.htm?docid=5720
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Nice one, downloaded and tried out.

One question, it has an entry Potassium, K and then on some foods it has Vitamin K.

Am i looking specifically for the entry Vitamin K on the nutrient list? and if that isn't there its a safe food?
 
It stems back to the same thing, just be consistent. We have a notice on the all of our warfarin clinic, says to tell the phlebotomist if you drink cranberry juice, not DO NOT drink it. I know not to have grapefruit because of the statins.
 
Over the course of about two weeks, people generally eat about the same thing. Warfarin works very well for people who do this. Consistency means not eating a whole bag of coleslaw mix in two days, or saving the two beers per day to have 14 on Saturday. If you overdo it on a salad bar one day then eat corn or beans for the next day's veggies.
 
I appreciate everybody's advice from the bottom of my mended heart, but I nedd to know the vit K value ( L-M-H)
of:
Baby dills pickles (marinated cucumbers like in hamburgers),
Grapefruit (fruit)
Lettuce (Iceberg type)
Green olives (canned)
Carrots (raw)
Chick peas (canned)
Thank you very much and a luminous Hanukkah and merry Christmas for everyone!
 
Eating one festive meal cannot make much difference. If it did there would not be enough people left on this site to make it interesting. Forget about it and have a Happy Hanukkah.
 
I've been on Coumadin for 15 years and don't really pay much attention to how much K foods have. I know not to eat a whole lot of spinach in a few days. As far as exact content or even general amounts, if it's a holiday dinner, or special occasion and I'm back to my "same ol' same ol' " the next day, I eat and enjoy.

Where the "K in Food" problem lies is the things such as protein bars and meal replacement shake, or weight-loss targeted frozen meals, that can contain a lot of K but don't always have to list it. If you see Soy as one of the first ingredients, you're pretty certain it has a lot of K.
 
My husband and I both take Coumadin and our INRs have been pretty steady for some time now. I wish I had a competent answer to your question about grapefruit, lettuce, olives, pickles, and chick peas and that I could refer you to some authority to verify that. In my opinion, iceberg lettuce and all of the other things you have listed are low in vitamin K. We both eat everything on your list on a regular basis and don't even think about the vitamin K content. I'm pretty iffy on grapefruits. I rarely have them because they can cause problems with some medications. But, I can tell you, I eat dill pickles like candy. They are my go-to-snack in the evenings. I never met a bean I didn't like and I eat every kind known to heaven and earth. We have salads,every day and sometimes twice a day, made with iceberg lettuce. We also use olives of every variety to spice up alot of the things we eat. OOPS, almost forgot the carrots, my favorite vegetable...nuff said on carrots.

I hope this is of some interest to you. Remember, there are many vegetarians on anticoagulation and they do quite well.

Kind regards,
Blanche
 
archkre said:
I appreciate everybody's advice from the bottom of my mended heart, but I nedd to know the vit K value ( L-M-H)
of:
Baby dills pickles (marinated cucumbers like in hamburgers),
Grapefruit (fruit)
Lettuce (Iceberg type)
Green olives (canned)
Carrots (raw)
Chick peas (canned)
Thank you very much and a luminous Hanukkah and merry Christmas for everyone!
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I'm quite sure you can find them, but for God sakes, don't depend on the values to regulate your dose or INR, it simply will not work that way.
 
When I was on Coumadin for three months following AVR, one of the biggest problem foods listed for inconsistant Vitamin K (on a list I was given) was avocadoes, as the Vitamin K amount can vary dramatically within the fruit, or perhaps because of the wide variety of avocado. We live in a county where an enormous percentage of the world's avocadoes are grown. (Hass are best. Yum. I LOVE a good guacamole!) Anyway, the last time I was at the local feed store, I was looking for mousetraps for my son's apartment and, I noticed that there was a special rat poison for "Coumadin resistant Norway Rats." Now, knowing that within our small orange grove, large grove rats are plentiful enough, and also knowing that they even prefer avocadoes over oranges, I'm thinking that perhaps Coumadin resistant Norway Rats could be those commonly found in avocado groves, perhaps resistant due to their high consumption of avocadoes. Do any of you have any specific knowledge about avocadoes and their Vitamin K content?
 
I have never paid a great deal of attention to vit K in what Chloe eats either and she has (touch wood!) a very stable INR and has done for quite some time. And this is for a young child, who I am sure we all know, have fussy stages - days where they refuse to eat, days where they eat lots of one thing, refusing all else etc etc.

I have to say, Clo is quite a good eater and loves coleslaw and carrots and eats them most days. I try and be consistent in what she eats and I do avoid cranberries mostly but its not always possible, she has had them in some juices and I don't worry - her INR has never been affected by her diet as far as I know. Other factors have messed it up, like being on antibiotics, having infections and especially sick bugs, but not her diet, so please try not to worry too much about the effect of vit k on your diet - if you don't do anything to daft excesses you will be fine!

Emma
xxx
 
Vit K lists are good only for about what a given food has, other then that, it might as well be toilet paper. I've seen far too many people drive themselves completely nuts trying to diet with vit k values and it has never worked yet. Simply eat the foods you love, as much of them as you love, but keep it consistent and change the dose for that diet. Never diet the dose of drug your on.
 
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