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Hello everyone I do have to say again that it has been fantastic being supported by such a wonderful and caring group of people. I am now close to 6 weeks post op and am feeling excellent. Thank you all again. I did have a question. Has anyone seen any stats or have any knowledge of what actually is the cause of faster degeneration of tissue valves in younger people? Is it because younger people are more mobile, athletic, have more vices; smoke, drugs alcohol etc. Could it just be a faster metabolizm? Why am I asking this? Well being an average 44 year old of average height, weight and build with an aspiring athletic disposition, I had quit smoking before surgery and thought I may just do a 180 turn and start working out. Focus more on health and body and maybe try to get back those 6 pack abs I had during my early 20's. I was wondering if there is any corrolation between faster degeneration of tissue valves and athletics..
If there is, I still would have gone tissue..........
Thanks ahead for your thoughts.............J
 
I did a lot of research on tissue valves prior to surgery as that was my backup plan if the surgeon was not able to repair my vavle. I was unable to find "any" link between activity level and the degeneration (calcification) of tissue valves. I was also unable to find a link between alcohol, drugs, or any other dietary activity and calcification as well. Unfortunately, there really didn't seem to be a clear link between anything and tissue valve life (except age). If there were certain risk factors identified, I would assume that people could be tested pre-op to determine how long a tissue valve might last in their particular body, which would sure make certain decisions a whole lot easier.

Metabolism seemed to be the most accepted theory, but I couldn't find any data to support it.
 
Hi Jay,
I did a good deal of reading on this before getting my bovine valve at age 38. As stated above, there is no apparent link between anything one does and how long your valve will last - diet, exercise, even smoking doesn't seem to factor in. My (admittedly limited) understanding is that it has something to do with the greater efficiency / activity of the immune system in younger people. I'm not clear about whether the calcification is an immune function itself or the by-product of these functions, but there is apparently nothing that can be actively done to control it.

That said, it still makes sense to eat right, exercise and not smoke because that will make one better able to handle replacement surgery when the time comes. :) Kate
 
Tissue Valve Calcification

Tissue Valve Calcification

Physical activity, even fabulous conditioning, has no effect on progression, nor does the lack of it seem to.

My understanding of the mechanisms involved is that they are chemical in nature, and younger people are certainly more chemically active. They heal faster, they react more quickly and violently to toxins (and recover faster), and they respond more rapidly and reliably to prescription drugs.

There are chemicals in the blood that naturally bond with certain other chemicals that they run across as they pass through the body. Among other things, this seems to function as a bodily response to the presence of dead or foreign objects. These objects often seem to have attractive chemicals on their surfaces which encourgage bonding.

Once the blood-borne chemicals attach to them and form primary bonds, secondary chemicals are attracted to the new compounds on the valve's surface. These secondary substances include minerals, such as calcium and phosphorus used to build and repair bones and teeth, which bind together into a mineral called apatite.

Apatite is the "calcification" referred to in valve literature. Why would it benefit the body for this hard coating to occur? The layers of apatite that are formed effectively "protect" the body from the dead or foreign object, keeping it from becoming infected or leaching harmful chemicals into the body as it deteriorates. Once coated enough, the object is functionally inert and isolated form the body.

Manufacturers of tissue valves seem to agree with this notion, and these attractive surface chemicals are the primary targets of their anticalcification treatments. Anticalcification treatments chemically bind or remove the alluring surface chemicals that would attract the blood-borne binding molecules.

Apatite is a general term for the type of mineral from which bones and teeth are made. In this instance, however, it's more similar to the crusty minerization found on your plumbing fixtures. I've often thought it would be great if they could run some vinegar or CLR through the valve and clean it like a drip coffeemaker or an encrusted showerhead. Unfortunately, vinegar doesn't go into the bloodstream as vinegar at all, and CLR and similar products are tragically toxic.

There have been theories trying to implicate cholesterol in the cacification of the valves, but apatite and the crunchy chemicals found on valves are not typical of cholesterol deposits, which are frequently soft by contrast. Moreover, having a calcified valve is not even a weak indicator for cholesterol deposits elsewhere in the arteries. Bicuspid aortic valves are often a site for apatitic encroachment. However, one of the frequent hallmarks of a bicuspid aortic valve is abnormally clean arteries.

Is that the exact answer? Probably not. No one quite knows what the precise mechanism is, but I doubt that it is far off the mark. It's a reasonable explanation, better than any that I've found, it does tie in with age, and it does tie into what the manufacturers are doing to protect their products and extend their valves' useful lives.

Best wishes,
 
I wish I knew the answer since I had a bovine replacement five weeks ago. It would be nice if it lasts 15 years or more but if it doesn't, I'll be glad to do it again, but who knows, technology will probably so totally different by then. My brother had a porcine valve and they told him it would last 5 to 7 years and it did. He had a second one about three years ago. He's 87 and still kicking around. :)
 
Thank you!

Thank you!

Thanks for your replies. You all basically confirmed any info I could find. I will move on and just live, work hard, work out and enjoy life and not look back. I'm sure my wife and kids will benefit. Be well...........J :) ;)
 

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