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Consuela

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Would tissue valve have been better ? I am a lifelong insomniac, depressive, lots of anxiety and have had full blown reactive tinnitus and hearing loss for 26 years so I dread the ticking as well but also dread future surgeries from a tissue valve
Tissue valve would have to be replaced every so many years. So that would mean another surgery. Try sleeping on your right side, if you prefer that side, with a pillow under your chest and your head snuggled into it.
 

pellicle

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Ignore it and be greatful you're alive. After awhile you won't even notice it. I've had my St. Jude valve since 2007 and expect it to last longer than I will.
this would be the advice I give too, but I've found that the modern worlds people seem to not be able to do that and feel something which makes them feel entitled to it being fixed like they see on startrek shows. They need a no-compromises valve that lasts forever and never need to make changes in their life that they didn't want to .

I'm going to go out on a limb here and will quote a song I reconcile with (for other reasons) by George Michael:

For what's the use in pressing palms
When children fade in mother's arms
It's a cruel world
We've so much to loose
And what we have to learn we rarely choose

Indeed in my life I've been faced with learning so much that I did not choose to learn. Instead of only whinging about it I also learned how to cope.

If I hadn't, the choice would be madness or embitterment.


PS: you can rightly guess I had a good friend die when I was a yound man and watched the effect it had on his mother. So you could say "George wrote that song for me" - and indeed the many others who lost a dear friend or mothers who lost a child. I've lost a wife too ... all things the most of those who live in the west only seem to learn when the reality of life slaps them in the face when they are over 60 ...

Life is tough, if you don't know that when you're growing up you'll fold when it gets tough.
 
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thomas999

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this would be the advice I give too, but I've found that the modern worlds people seem to not be able to do that and feel something which makes them feel entitled to it being fixed like they see on startrek shows. They need a no-compromises valve that lasts forever and never need to make changes in their life that they didn't want to .

I'm going to go out on a limb here and will quote a song I reconcile with (for other reasons) by George Michael:

For what's the use in pressing palms
When children fade in mother's arms
It's a cruel world
We've so much to loose
And what we have to learn we rarely choose

Indeed in my life I've been faced with learning so much that I did not choose to learn. Instead of only whinging about it I also learned how to cope.

If I hadn't, the choice would be madness or embitterment.


PS: you can rightly guess I had a good friend die when I was a yound man and watched the effect it had on his mother. So you could say "George wrote that song for me" - and indeed the many others who lost a dear friend or mothers who lost a child. I've lost a wife too ... all things the most of those who live in the west only seem to learn when the reality of life slaps them in the face when they are over 60 ...

Life is tough, if you don't know that when you're growing up you'll fold when it gets tough.

Thanks,my whole life has instantly changed for the better!
 

Warrick

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I think maybe they mean maybe you could start your own ministry..
All cheques made out to Combined Australian Stricken Hearts or C.A.S.H. for short....
 

pellicle

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He suggested that you take your advice and stick it
Well, I wasn't talking to him anyways. I'd like to see him try that approach in person...
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Nick Drew

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quite annoying at first but completely used to it now after 5 months. I also tried white noise but just get on with it now
 

Timmay

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Just to confirm some things other people have said ...
  • Earplugs are a big no. It just amplifies what is going on IN your body. This only matters during sleep. Doesn't matter at all when going target shooting or exercising with your in-ear earbuds music playing, etc.
  • Sleeping on one side is more audible than the back or the other side. For me it is my left side. I *DO* lay on my left side at night but I can't sleep on that side because, for me, that side amplifies the valvular noise up into my throat. It sounds way worse than what it really is. It's not horrible by any means ... I just would rather not.
  • I definitely did eventually get used to it (but I also had no worry that I would). I was told that I would eventually find comfort in the noise. Guess what? I actually do.
I truly think that if you're the kind of person that finds yourself being noise-sensitive in a truly negative way, then you really want to balance quantity of life with mental frustration & more operations in your life. I know people where a mech valve would drive them crazy. And I mean that literally. They would choose a more risky life with more struggle and more operations just to not have the noise that is only evident under certain conditions. I am not at all saying that I understand this or advocate it ... just that I have seen this in action and know people where this is true. I have personally witnessed individuals become extremely angry at the sound of potato chip crunching.
 

Superman

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I have personally witnessed individuals become extremely angry at the sound of potato chip crunching.
A reasonable response to such stimulus. Or worse, the sound of someone brushing their teeth. Drives me nuts.

Brushing my own doesn’t bother me, but I don’t like other people brushing theirs around me.

It’s on account of my super hearing and all.

But I’m used to my valve so that’s good.
 

TeresaUK

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I have been a fly on the wall here for years and rarely comment. But I feel I want to share something now because it was a BIG deal to me. I cannot stand any repetitive noise - foot tapping, screen tapping, keyboard tapping, chewing, sniffing. Any kind of beeping, vehicles reversing, machinery pinging & clicking........ All those gadgets in hospitals and kitchens, all beeping away. You get the gist. So in those first few months after I first heard my aortic valve clicking away so loudly that those nearby in a quiet room could hear it, I thought I would probably go insane or at least be very miserable forever. Nights were long and annoying. Days were ok if I wasn't in a quiet room. That was many years ago now and I don't recall at what point I stopped noticing it (mostly) or when it stopped bothering me (completely). But it happened and here I am. Relatively sane and not at all miserable.
 

Mike239

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Would a sleep apnea machine have any affect at diminishing the valve noise? If in fact you needed to use a sleep apnea machine for medical reasons.
 

pellicle

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Would a sleep apnea machine have any affect at diminishing the valve noise?
well I can say that I've just finished doing the yard work and with ear plugs in and using the lawn mower and whipper snipper I never heard it ticking once ;-)
 
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