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LadyChicken

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I've been struggling to fall asleep at a reasonable hour within the last year or so. By reasonable, I mean before midnight. Anyway, after searching up some natural suggestions, I've decided that I might like to give magnesium a go.
So far I seem to be reading conflicting info about the interactions with Warfarin, so I'm hesitant to take a supplement just yet.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 

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I take large dose of magnesium oxide every day. Cardio and ac clinic approved. Haven’t seen it effect INR. The oxide form doesn’t bother my stomach. Just googled it and it says to not take the magnesium and warfarin at same time during day. Space it out in the day. I’ve never been told that but luckily I’ve been doing that.
 

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When I started having life threatening multiple simultaneous arrhythmias, the doctors put me on a magnesium drip.

Since then, they want me to continue to take magnesium. I'm using a combination of forms of magnesium that I get from Trader Joe's, 250 mg twice a day, morning and evening (but not too close to bedtime), and have tolerated it well. It hasn't affected my INR at all.

I tried the 400 mg magnesium oxide capsules, and they have too much for me -- I get, shall I say, digestive problems. Even one a day was too much for me - for me, it's better to spread my dose out to morning and evening.

For a while, I added 200 mg of Magnesium Citrate, from a company thatI don't entirely trust - and had no effect at all.

I also tried a form of magnesium that was, supposedly, a better source because the body absorbed more of it (or something) and wasn't supposed to have any effect on the digestive system. I'm not quite sure of that claim.

Magnesium helps with muscle contraction (or something), which is why my cardiologist wants me taking it.

It can also help you relax. At bedtime, for may people, it may help you fall asleep.

I don't think it has any effect on INR.
 

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Yes I read at one point that there is a better absorbing magnesium as well. Looks like magnesium glycinate and Magnesium L-threonate help with sleep and are more absorbable than the other forms. L-Threonate taken early in day, not before bed. I may try one of them. My neurologist recommended magnesium oxide for my migraines.
 

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I take 800 mg of magnesium oxide a day for migraines. No effect on my INR or stomach. However, I'm reading that oxide doesn't absorb as well as other forms. I may try glycinate or taurate.
 

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When I started having life threatening multiple simultaneous arrhythmias, the doctors put me on a magnesium drip.

Since then, they want me to continue to take magnesium. I'm using a combination of forms of magnesium that I get from Trader Joe's, 250 mg twice a day, morning and evening (but not too close to bedtime), and have tolerated it well. It hasn't affected my INR at all.

I tried the 400 mg magnesium oxide capsules, and they have too much for me -- I get, shall I say, digestive problems. Even one a day was too much for me - for me, it's better to spread my dose out to morning and evening.

For a while, I added 200 mg of Magnesium Citrate, from a company thatI don't entirely trust - and had no effect at all.

I also tried a form of magnesium that was, supposedly, a better source because the body absorbed more of it (or something) and wasn't supposed to have any effect on the digestive system. I'm not quite sure of that claim.

Magnesium helps with muscle contraction (or something), which is why my cardiologist wants me taking it.

It can also help you relax. At bedtime, for may people, it may help you fall asleep.

I don't think it has any effect on INR.
Your comment about your arrhythmias has me thinking. I have palpitations now and then, maybe a few times a month, and they last for about 3 seconds. My cardiologist has had me on a few holters but, of course, I never get one on those days😑. She says she's not overly concerned because they don't cause any other symptoms. But now I'm wondering if magnesium might also put an end to them. I shall bring this idea to her when I see her in February.
 

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I take 800 mg of magnesium oxide a day for migraines. No effect on my INR or stomach. However, I'm reading that oxide doesn't absorb as well as other forms. I may try glycinate or taurate.
Do they make a significant difference with the frequency of your migraines? I get migraines with aura, and their frequency has doubled since my surgery, so I'm super curious if magnesium is the key. It would be a dream if it cut them down by half.
 

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hi i have been taking a large daily dose of chelated magnesium glycinate for years without any problem, i found it really smooths out my heartbeat
I looked for this type of magnesium today and couldnt find it anywhere. I found oxide and citrate, but no glycinate. I'm planning to call my pharmacy tomorrow and see what each kind does.
 

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I looked for this type of magnesium today and couldnt find it anywhere. I found oxide and citrate, but no glycinate. I'm planning to call my pharmacy tomorrow and see what each kind does.
i played around with various types and this works best for me, i used to suffer with palpitations post surgery and i found the Mag Glycinate worked wonders with zero digestive issues
 

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Clarify large please (I'm curious)
Hi Pell ( excellent graph 👍 i do love a rolling avg )

1000mg, the bioavailability of oxide is poor, other chelated forms are better.

you have to factor this in because if you take 200mg you will not absorb that amount.
current levels of Zinc, calcium and Vit D amongst others play a roll.

the bioavailability is very important, this dose works well for me, as a bonus i noticed a decrease in post surgery migraine too.
 

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Doctor's Best makes (or will soon offer) Magnesium Glycinate that they describe as being highly absorbable. They also say that it doesn't have an effect on the digestive system.

I've tried it - and slightly disagree with the digestive effects -- I'll try it again and see if the issue continues.

As far as helping reduce arrhythmias, it's certainly worth a try. I was prescribed Magnesium for my arrhythmias and take it twice a day, and Glycinate near bedtime. I don't think it has had any effect on the length or quality of my sleep.

It also doesn't seem to have had any impact on the frequency of my migraine auras.

I couldn't tolerate Magnesium Oxide. Magnesium Citrate wasn't bad - but be careful of dosage - too much can have a very laxative effect (it was given to me in the hospital after Amiodorone turned my intestinal contents to concrete). Yes, ask your cardiologist about magnesium - but I suspect that your doctor will have no issues with you taking it.
 

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I really doubt that magnesium has any effect on INR. Others here haven't reported any, and I've taken magnesium in different strengths, and have seen NO changes in my INR.
 

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Interesting thread. I take a daily 380mg capsule at bedtime of Magnesium Hydroxide but do so to aid muscle cramps in my legs that used to occur at night. They still occur but much less frequently and with less effect. I have not noticed any effect on INR.
 

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Do they make a significant difference with the frequency of your migraines? I get migraines with aura, and their frequency has doubled since my surgery, so I'm super curious if magnesium is the key. It would be a dream if it cut them down by half.
A few years ago and before my surgery, I started taking magnesium, riboflavin and a baby aspirin every day. It helped a lot. Migraines decreased from a few times a week to a few times a month. My neurologist said I could go off aspirin - she had me taking aspirin for something else, not migraines. I went off aspirin and the frequent migraines returned. Looks like there is some research about aspirin as migraine preventative online. The neurologists I’ve seen don’t know anything about it. I went back to taking baby aspirin. Not sure how much the oxide helps but certainly isn’t hurting so I take it just in case. Neurologists recommend oxide because that’s the only form of magnesium that was used in a study and it did help some in the study but it isn’t very absorbable. I just ordered Doctor’s Best chelated glycinate from Amazon. Looking forward to trying it out.
 

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I'm also taking the glycinate - but it's tricky because the dose is so low compared to the other forms. IF it's more absorbable than the others, perhaps the doses in the bottle are plenty.

Doctors have to do CYA, so they tell you to use the form that's been researched. Perhaps they're right. But in my case, I had to avoid pure oxide, and used Trader Joe's magnesium, which includes Oxide, Citrate, and another form.

When I went into the hospital in late December, my magnesium numbers were up - demonstrating that these supplements ARE increasing the magnesium levels. Sure, I was still taking magnesium oxide, but I'm pretty sure that the other forms also helped.

It would be interesting to see if your blood magnesium changes after taking it -- but of course this would require prescriptions from your doctor before and after taking it for a week or two.
 
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