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Jamieann

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Well I made it through my AVR surgery on Friday!! Definitely a relief although I feel run over by a truck.

The day after my surgery my heart stopped twice for 4 seconds each time. I was awake during each time which was a crazy feeling - really hot, woozy and dizzy. Then I was hooked me up to a temporary pacemaker for a couple days - also a really weird feeling to feel something else beating your heart for you. Now I'm off the temp pacemaker but my cardiologist/surgeon/arrhythmia specialist at the hospital are still on the fence about where to go from here. My heart is still have some abnormal activity on EKGs so they will either keep me in the hospital to continue to monitor or do an electrophysiology study where they would go in to my heart to test the electrical signals that are happening. They could either find that I'm ok to go home or will need a pacemaker for life. Not my ideal option since I'm only 27 but if it needs to be done it needs to be done.

Did anyone else experience similar heart rhythm issues post surgery?
 
Hi Jamieann,

I didn't experience any heart rhythm issues after my surgery. But I did want to congratulate you on your surgery. I hope that they properly address your issues so that you can begin your recovery that much faster. I will say a prayer for you. It seems as though you have a great attitude in facing whatever may come. That can make a huge difference in your recovery too. Keep us posted as to how things shake out. Fingers crossed.

Tom
 
First of all, congrats on getting through the surgery. I recall the feeling of being run over by the truck. This too shall pass...:)
I am sorry to hear about the electrical issues. I had runs of atrial fibrillation post-surgery and they kept me on medication. I did have a high heart rate for quite some time. There are a number of members here that ended up with pacemakers and are doing well. The first one that comes to mind, is Steve Epstein.
All the best and hang in there...
 
Great to hear your surgery's over! Congratulations.
Hoping the arrhythmia settles down soon and your recovery runs smoothly onwards.
Good thoughts to you for the days ahead.
 
Hi there,

Glad to hear you are recovering!

Two weeks after my third surgery, at 8 years old, I experienced rapid heart beat. I was still in the hospital recovering. The nurse noticed and I was placed on IV meds right away. I had to stay in the hospital an extra week, but was perfectly fine after that.

Hope all goes well with you!!
 
Hi there,

Glad to hear you are recovering!

Two weeks after my third surgery, at 8 years old, I experienced rapid heart beat. I was still in the hospital recovering. The nurse noticed and I was placed on IV meds right away. I had to stay in the hospital an extra week, but was perfectly fine after that.

Hope all goes well with you!!
 
I had a history of arrhythmia for years prior to my surgery. Just occasional flubs or a skipped beat from time to time. A few episodes of Afib that I was cardioverted for. But it was just something I lived with. My surgery day began with another bout of Afib as soon as they put me under anesthesia I was told. After surgery I had a lot of extra and skipped beats and some atrial flutter and racing pulse. They never treated me for it, just monitored me and medicated. I was sent home with no indication that it was anything to worry about even though it made me somewhat nervous. In the months since Ive been healing (7 months) things have quieted way down and gotten much much better. Way better than even ever before surgery. My surgeon told me that heart surgery makes the heart very irritable and that it would pass. He was right! I think I will partly take credit because of all the exercise Ive done in my time since surgery to heal and strengthen my heart health. I think about it sometimes and thank my lucky stars they were willing to just let me heal and recover without cause for alarm to put me on anti-arrhythmia medication for the rest of my life, or anything ever more drastic like a procedure of any kind. Don't know your situation but hopefully its like mine and nothing to be worried about if they think your safe enough to just give it some time to heal and calm down. Fingers crossed.
 
Thanks for the responses and support!

I found out today that I will have to end up going in for an electrophysiology study on my heart tomorrow. Apparently the problem is that I have an electrical block in my left bundle and it takes too long for the electrical signals to pass through my heart. They are actually better at rest and worse when I walk around... Wish me luck! Really hoping that a pacemaker is not in the cards for me.
 
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I had a history of arrhythmia for years prior to my surgery. Just occasional flubs or a skipped beat from time to time. A few episodes of Afib that I was cardioverted for. But it was just something I lived with. My surgery day began with another bout of Afib as soon as they put me under anesthesia I was told. After surgery I had a lot of extra and skipped beats and some atrial flutter and racing pulse. They never treated me for it, just monitored me and medicated. I was sent home with no indication that it was anything to worry about even though it made me somewhat nervous. In the months since Ive been healing (7 months) things have quieted way down and gotten much much better. Way better than even ever before surgery. My surgeon told me that heart surgery makes the heart very irritable and that it would pass. He was right! I think I will partly take credit because of all the exercise Ive done in my time since surgery to heal and strengthen my heart health. I think about it sometimes and thank my lucky stars they were willing to just let me heal and recover without cause for alarm to put me on anti-arrhythmia medication for the rest of my life, or anything ever more drastic like a procedure of any kind. Don't know your situation but hopefully its like mine and nothing to be worried about if they think your safe enough to just give it some time to heal and calm down. Fingers crossed.


I like this story.

Good luck for tomorrow Jamie.
 
Jamieann, LBBB (left bundle branch block) is a fairly common after-effect of aortic valve surgery. In some patients, the nerves that transmit the electrical impulses are very close to the area in the heart that must be cut and/or removed in order to implant the prosthetic valve. I am one of those patients.

I had my aortic valve replaced and was taken back to the CICU (cardiac intensive care unit). During the first 4 or 5 days after surgery, after removal of the temporary pacemaker, my heart tried just about every sort of rhythm one could imagine. It went too fast (tachycardia). It went too slow (bradycardia). It skipped beats. It added beats. I went into afib. I tried them all. . . then I guess my heart just got bored and it just plain stopped. For some hours, my heart would simply stop for periods of up to 20 seconds at a time. Let me tell you, it is really scary to see your own heart monitor screen go "flat-line." After each of these episodes, I would awaken and see a ring of very concerned faces around my bed. These faces belonged to my entire ICU care team. They never had to use the paddles but things got very scary for me and for my wife.

After about 5 days of various meds and treatments, the electrophysiologist came to see me. He said he needed to discuss some choices with me. I hoped he wasn't referring to "end-of-life" choices, but until he composed himself and spoke, I was sort of afraid. He finally cleared the air, though, by telling me that I really had two choices. They could continue to try to control my heart with various medications, hoping that while the meds kept things under control in the short term, that my heart might heal and become more independent in the longer term. This could, however, make my first months of recovery into some kind of less-than-ideal life that I hoped to avoid. My other alternative was to have a pacemaker implanted. I think the EP doctor was afraid that I would resist the thought of a pacemaker, but I surprised him. I told him that my mother had a pacemaker for the last 8 or 10 years of her life, and asked him "What are we waiting for?" My pacemaker went in later that day.

It took a couple of months to get the settings just the way I wanted them. This was because they looked at my chart and set the device the way they would for the "average" 63 year-old man. I was not "that man" however. I was, until just before surgery, still going to the gym 5 days a week and jogging, lifting weights, training hard, for my age. I eventually got the device set the way I needed it, and have never looked back. I am now 5 years out from surgery and still going to the gym 5 days a week. I have done everything I wanted to do, in spite of the pacemaker. I once thought I had hit the pacemaker's limits when I was mountain biking up a hill on St. Maartin. I ran totally out of breath and thought I had out-run my pacemaker. It turned out that my beta blocker was holding my heart rate down, and that the pacemaker would have done just fine had I not been medically restricted.

I do not really even realize that I have the pacemaker, unless I look in a mirror with my shirt off. I am a skinny old gym rat, and my pacemaker looks like the docs left some sort of tools under my skin. I don't feel it, nor do I see it myself. Being a guy, when I go to the pool or beach, or in the locker room, I just ignore it. If anyone stares at it, I just stare right back. I've got a slew of scars, bumps, things sewn into me. . . and I just don't worry about it. I'm here. I'm living my life just as I want to, and the small stuff doesn't matter.

In a couple of years, I'll be due for a replacement pacemaker. They don't change the battery, they change the whole device. I'm nor worried about that, either. Replacements are an out-patient procedure with most people going in first thing in the morning and being home by around lunch time. The only thing I "worry" about is getting the settings the way I want them again, as I'm pretty sure the next pacemaker will be a newer model than the old, and may have different features. Not a big deal, though. They will get it right, eventually.

So, Jamieann, if you do opt for a pacemaker, don't worry about it changing your life. Mine made my life much more "normal" and allowed me to take fewer meds. The meds I have avoided are the sort that control and regulate heart rate and rhythm, and I'm sure that had I opted for the meds, my heart would not feel as "natural" as it does.
 
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Hi epstns, thanks for sharing your experience! LBBB is what I have as well, along with another weird electrical impulse, which my electrophysiologist has never seen before in his career. They ended up doing an electrophysiology study to see how my heart works under pressure/at different speeds and while there is minor dysfunction they don't believe I need a pacemaker at this time.

That being said, I was told that this is something that can deteriorate over time, so another thing to monitor and see what the future may bring.
 
I don't know if theres a real proven science to this theory but I personally think that after surgery you only have one chance to heal. So I feel like its best to take advantage of every option you can to better your situation... diet, exercise and so forth. I feel like it took me six months to really heal, others here say it can take up to a year so perhaps I have further yet to go. Not sure why I bring it up other than to say be patient and think of it as working towards a goal. Its not simply waiting for the time to pass. Do what you can to exercise each and every day even if you feel like you can only do a little. Push yourself but not too hard.
 
Hello Jamieann! Glad to hear you don't need a pacemaker. I had to have a pacemaker after my surgery. Doctors were hoping I didn't need it but in the end I needed it. I use it 10% of the time. I was 28 years old when I had surgery. I'm 33 now. Overall the pacemaker has been a non issue. This life is crazy!
 
I ended up with 3rd degree heart block. My ventricles have been paced 100% since surgery. My heart beat is my own, but the ventricles don't get the message. Mechanical aortic valve 1/11/16, pacemaker 1/16/16. I started jogging 3 weeks ago.
 
Jamieann,
I hope you don't need a pacemaker only because you are young and don't need any more issues.
I didn't have issues after AVR but i had pericardial effusion about 9 days after surgery which landed me back in CICU. When they drained or tapped the effusion I had episodes of afib and arrhythmia. The doctor who did the tap said that this was normal as we were irritating the heart with the drain tube. They put me on diminishing doses of Metropolol to slow the heart down a bit and calm the situation which worked while i was in hospital. I had a couple of episodes of arrhythmia since then which resolved themselves.

I wish you all the best and hope your issues go away on their own.
Bushman
 
I had an episode of Atrial Fibrillation at the start of my 2nd week after arriving home. I hadn't been warned about it beforehand, but when i was re admitted to hospital, the Dr. Informed me that it;s something that can affect up to 30% of people who under go Open Heart Surgery. So far my age has made my recovery period pretty easy (I'm 28), and my AF episode was really the only major issue I have experienced so far (Currently half way through my 4th week after my operation)

When the episode first started, I wasn't entirely sure what was happening. I had what felt like constant palpitations in my chest, and since i have a mechanical valve, I can hear my own heartbeat. I hooked myself up to my Blood Pressure Monitor at home and it measured a blood pressure far lower than what it should be (I think it was 95/55 or something like that), and a pulse of ~150bpm. I could hear my valve clicking away sporadically while it was happening. Since i wasn't in any pain, and didn't feel exhausted after moving around (just a little light headed after standing up), I decided to sit and wait to see if it would go away on it's own for an hour (which it didn't), I then tried drinking more fluids, and attempting some calm breathing exercises, which managed to slow it down to a slightly less erratic 120bmp temporarily. After this I called up the hospital where i had my operation (Which is around 100Km from where i live), and they told me I should probably get to a nearby Hospital ASAP and have it sorted out. I was given an infusion of Amiodarone (and a bunch of different electrolyte drips) and my heart went back into sinus rhythm later that night. I haven't had another episode since then (they did put me on a course of oral Amiodarone for the following two weeks after the episode. I was told that It is unlikely that it will happen again, and that i wouldn't require a pace maker (I didn't even have pacing wires in me when i woke up after my surgery, just drainage tubes). Apparently the hart can get rather tetchy after being operated on.


Wishing you all the best! Hope you have a smooth recovery, and congratulations on the successful operation!
 
If I remember correctly, other than a couple of very unusual instances, my last bout of afib related specifically to my valve replacement was exactly 1 month post-op. I wasn't sure what happened until my next pacemaker interrogation when they quizzed me as to what was happening at that specific time of that specific date. I was attending a play and clearly remember sitting there in the darkened theater. About midway through the second act of the play, with no warning, I fell asleep. Soundly asleep, but only for a few minutes. ("Nap-time!") I then awoke and was fine. The electro-physiologist saw that exact timespan on my interrogation report, and we "connected the dots."

After that instance, the only times I had any significant afib (more than a few seconds or a minute) was at times when I was injured and in severe pain. These occurrences don't seem to bother the docs at all.

For the first few months post-op, having had all my heart rhythm and rate complications, and having the pacemaker, I was prescribed amioderone. If your doctor prescribes this time bomb for you, please take the time to search all of the old posts on this site about amioderone. It can have some very nasty and long-lasting side effects, so if you have a choice, try to stay away from it for anything beyond a few months.
 
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