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I watched a webinar by this Dr on you tube. Since I'm still having pain in my sternum a month & a half after surgery (also went to ER about 2weeks ago) this had some interesting sternal closure info. I asked my surgeon about doing something different besides "bread tie" type of closure & he wouldn't consider it. Has anyone else had issues with pain in the sternal area after heart valve surgery? My chest still feels tight & I can't really take deep breaths because of this.
 
I had pain and weird feelings for a relatively long time. I didn't think of it as an "issue" just normal for being cracked open.
 
I have pangs now and then, or more often if it’s right after my incision opens up again/the scab comes off; but I have more pain in my pecs i guess. By sternum, you mean right in the center, right? Is it sharp pain, or more kind of constant aches, or what?

Could a CT tell you anything at that early of a stage, I wonder? I would be at the doctors’ office every dang day if I still couldn’t take deep breaths... I’m sorry you feel that, & hope it resolves soon.
 
I watched a webinar by this Dr on you tube. Since I'm still having pain in my sternum a month & a half after surgery (also went to ER about 2weeks ago) this had some interesting sternal closure info. I asked my surgeon about doing something different besides "bread tie" type of closure & he wouldn't consider it. Has anyone else had issues with pain in the sternal area after heart valve surgery? My chest still feels tight & I can't really take deep breaths because of this.
I had a mini-sternotomy, so I expect my experience might be different. Sternal pain was gone by 2 weeks for me, but I did have sharp pain in my ribs up to about 6 weeks, maybe as late as 7 weeks that made it hard to breath. For me, the rib pain appeared to be my intercostal muscles, which connect the ribs. The strange thing is that these rib pains did not start until about week 3. Also, they were fine during the day, but when I would lay down for a long time, like while sleeping, and then get up- bang! that was when it hit me. It was as if the muscle was cramped up and was tender to the touch. It was very painful just to breath, which makes some sense as the intercostal muscles help the chest to expand when you breath. A few minutes of slow breathing exercises and walking around seemed to get the muscles to completely relax, until the next time I would lay down for an extended period.

What was odd was that one week it would be the intercostal muscle between rib 5 and 6 and just as that would resolve, the muscle between rib 10 and 11 would act up. I believe it is likely due to the prying open of the rib cage that occurs in OHS. When the ribs are opened like that, I would imagine that something has to give and I suppose that the soft tissue connecting the ribs gets stretched pretty good, to the point of needing to do some repair work in the coming months.

The introduction in this publication has a good discussion on Post-sternotomy pain syndrome (PSPS). It sounds like post-sternotomy pain is very common in the first 2 months. In fact, they do not even consider it PSPS unless the pain has persisted for over 2 months after surgery and then the numbers of those experiencing such pain is still relatively high: " PSPS is a common problem, with an incidence of 7%–66% within 1 or 2 years after the operation, in patients undergoing thoracic surgery. "

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5439996/
Another publication that I read indicated that for the vast majority the pain is gone after 4 months. It sounds like what you are experiencing is probably common, especially in the first 2 months after surgery, but I would definitely be in communication with your surgical team about it.
 
Pain is very common for weeks, so long as not deblitating, as is a feeling of chest tightness. Do deep breathing excercises, consistently and inhale until it becomes uncomfortable. If you have a spirometer (usually provided by the hospital) use it! The Apple I Watch has a deep breathing app and I'm sure you can download one onto a smart phone. I also noticed it was hard to do a big yawn, so everytime I yawn, I try to focus on making it as big as I can. I am 7 weeks post op AVR and it's getting better almost daily, but I am working on the deep breathing. I have minimal to no pain, but some tightness remains, which is totally understandable given the full sternotomy. Best of luck, hope you are just experiencing "normal" post op discomfort and it disappears soon!
 
Has anyone else had issues with pain in the sternal area after heart valve surgery? My chest still feels tight & I can't really take deep breaths because of this.
Yes, I had pain and couldn't take deep breaths. While I was still in the hospital, they started daily x-rays because I was having a hard time taking deep breaths. It turns out I had fluid around my lungs. I had my surgery in Dec. 2020, the peak of COVID. I wasn’t allowed to leave my room even to walk the hall, I could only walk once a day with a therapist. Upon discharge, an order was placed for me to go back in a week. After that x-ray, I was told I needed a thortesis. Once I had it, I felt great! Huge difference in breathing! Walking became so much easier too!
 
I watched a webinar by this Dr on you tube. Since I'm still having pain in my sternum a month & a half after surgery (also went to ER about 2weeks ago) this had some interesting sternal closure info. I asked my surgeon about doing something different besides "bread tie" type of closure & he wouldn't consider it. Has anyone else had issues with pain in the sternal area after heart valve surgery? My chest still feels tight & I can't really take deep breaths because of this.


There is a condition that is made worse while taking a deep breath but is alleviated by leaning forward.

it may not ring any bells but this past thread touched on it.

i hope it helps , it helped me understand my issue

( it's very painful many have presented at ER thinking its a heart attack )

https://www.valvereplacement.org/threads/3-months-after-avr-afib.887559/#post-897846
 
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I also had pain on taking a deep breath for many weeks after surgery. My pain ended up being muscular in nature. I was concerned enough at one point to go the Urgent Care, but a thorough battery of tests showed everything was fine. Once I started working on the muscles in my back and shoulders, and managed to get the knots and tightness to relax the pain rapidly diminished. I had really thought it was my lungs, but in hindsight I now realize it was muscle tightness and cramping. I still have some tightness, but now know how to deal with it.
 
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