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Hello everyone!

I?ve just joined because I have an enlarged aortic root and ascending aneurysm that needs repair.

I?d really appreciate getting all the advice that your collective wisdom can offer.

Here?s my story:
I?m a 57 year old guy whose father died at age 72 of a dissecting aorta. My dad?s aorta was enlarged and dissecting from the arch down through the abdomen and at the time (1987) it was deemed too extensive for surgery.

In 2004 I learned that my aortic root was 46mm via an echo screening. A re-check in 2005, again by echo, showed it to be 47mm.

This past December it measured 51mm by a poor quality CT scan.

Last Friday (the 13th!) I had a high quality MRI and the aneurysm measured 52mm at the widest part. It is slightly oval at this widest part (49mm x 52mm) and narrows down to 38mm before reaching the arch. After the MRI I met with a local surgeon at Duke (Dr. Chad Hughes) who confirmed my belief that it?s time to get this repaired. He said that even though the aneurysm ?hadn?t changed significantly in the past 6 months? I should move ahead with the surgery because of my family history.

Dr. Hughes feels that because my aortic valve is showing only mild to moderate regurgitation that I?m a candidate for a David procedure (he said ?David 5?), but that he wouldn?t know until I was already in surgery and he could assess the valve. I would need to have a pre-specified backup plan (i.e. ? tissue or mechanical, etc.) in case the valve had problems that precluded its use.

He specializes in Aortic repair and has performed a total of ~ 50 David procedures (this includes those during his residency at Penn). He also does ~100 other aortic root replacements, such as the Bentall, per year. He says that the combined mortality & stroke risk is only 2% based on his own surgical record. I would also be exposed to 2 ~ 3% risk of bleeding/infection and/or need for a pacemaker that he said is common to any type of heart surgery.

I am extremely encouraged by the statistics he quoted, particularly since the best comparables I?ve seen are from the Cleveland Clinic that show 3.6 mortality (on the web site).

Apparently my heart has some overall dilation but functions well. This dilation causes him to wonder if I may have some connective tissue type disorder although I have no other symptoms/characteristics that would suggest this.

My blood pressure at rest over the past few years has typically been 120/77. About two weeks ago I began taking a pressure lowering drug (Atenolol) that seems to have reduced it just a bit ? to perhaps 118/75. Lying down in bed it currently is running 105/65.
At this point I?m not sure whether I should go ahead and schedule the surgery with Dr. Hughes at Duke or whether I should search for other opinions.

Having the surgery locally here at Duke has its obvious advantages. On the other hand I?d ?go the extra mile? if there were any likelihood of a better outcome. I guess this is the same kind of decision that we?re all faced with so I?d appreciate any comments and suggestions.

For example, I?ve thought about writing to some of the other surgeons that I?ve read about (Dr. David in Toronto, etc.) to get see if they would suggest coming to see them, etc. However, assuming that the statistics quoted to me by Dr. Hughes are accurate I may be spending my energy/time futilely by pursuing other surgeons or facilities. I?d like to feel confident that the local route is best but am concerned that I may overlook a better option.

I look forward to being an active member here.

Ross Mann
 
Welcome. I myself am in the waiting room. However, there are some members here that can really help you out with information. You my friend have come to the right place.:)
Wishing you the best.
 
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Hi Ross,

A common response to your question about whether to go local or look elsewhere is to seek out the most experienced surgeon and the best heart surgery center possible. I don't disagree with that advice.

How you assess your surgeon's track record and level of experience is a very personal thing. The same goes for your evaluation of the surgical facility you consider for your OHS.

You'll find members here who made the trip to heart centers quite a distance from home because they felt these centers would improve their chances for a positive outcome. You'll also find others like me who made the choice to stay "local".

A major factor in my choice was my comfort level with the surgeon I chose. I also took the time to visit with the folks in the ICCU at the hospital I chose. I doubt I could've made a better choice on both counts.

You want to have total confidence in your surgeon and the folks who will deliver the care you need post-op.

-Philip
 
In the case of an aneurysm of the aorta, that over anything else such as valve replacement or repair should be your main are of concern as far as the expertise of the person doing the surgery. It is the most critical part of it all.

I do know from experience that Emory in Atlanta has a surgeon who's specialty is just that, you will see his name in my signature. When my cardiologist told me I needed surgery she said it would be Dr. Chen. Not knowing why my wife questioned her on why, and the answer. She said people come from all over to see him as he was trained extensively in the aortic replacement area. I will say I found him to be a great doc.
 
That was a very nice and informed introductory post, Ross. I don't really have any advice but just wanted to welcome you to the site; glad you found it and hoping all goes well for you.
 
Welcome Aboard Ross3 !

It appears that your surgeon addressed the important issues regarding Surgical Repair of the Aorta and is aware of the Connective Tissue Issues. How to assess his expertise in this area is the Big Question for you. (I don't feel qualified to help you in that endeavor).

Hopefully our member Arliss who is the group's 'Aorta Surgery / Surgeon Guru' will see your post and address your questions. Alternatively, you could send her a PM (Private Message) asking her to look over your post and give her opinion.

I suggest you look over the (new) Bicuspid Aorta Valve and Connective Tissue Disorder Forum. You find a LOT of familiar sounding language and discussion there, along with some of the names of the Top Aorta Surgeons.

DUKE is certainly one of the Top Rated Heart Hospitals so hopefully your guy (or one of his colleagues) falls in the 'Best of the Best' Aorta Surgeon Category. Our member BVDR had her surgery at Duke and is a former Nurse so maybe she can help you determine the background of the Surgeons at Duke.

You and the Duke Surgeon are in agreement with the common guideline of recommending surgery once the Aneurism reaches 5.0 cm (some recommend 5.5 - YIKES!). With your family history, I agree: Get it FIXED, the sooner, the better. You definitely want a Top Rated Surgeon with LOTS of Experience doing Surgical Repair of the (entire) Aorta.

'AL Capshaw'
 
welcom to VR, Ross3. Our TopMan is also Ross w/o the 3 so when someone mixes you up, don't worry.

Glad to have you here. There is much collective information for you.
 
Welocme,Ross. There are many here who have had their surgery at Duke which is a top-rated facility. In a quick search, I came up with Robert Alan- you might want to private message him and also put in a search for Duke. Glad you found us and best wishes to you.
 
Welcome Ross.

My thoughts: My prospective surgeon says 4.8 or 4.9 is go time, but for you he'd probably say sooner. If I knew about a dissection or rupture in my family history I would be trying to find someone to do it right now at 4.5 cm. Duke sounds great to me, but I'm looking at UofM or Cleveland just because it's close.

Good luck!
 
Welcome to the VR community, Ross. Glad you found us. I don't really have any insights or advice on your situation, but just wanted to welcome you. I am sure others with more knowledge on the subject of enlarged aortic root and ascending aneurysm will come by to post.

Best wishes and good luck.
 
Welcome Ross. I totally agree with all the others about the immediate attention to your aneurysm. I am in the same age group and situation as you- the aneurysm is the reason for my upcoming surgery and not the bicuspid aortic valve. But they will replace the valve at the same time. I have pretty well settled on a mechanical valve given my age (53) and fact that I do not wish to look forward to another surgery. But there is still some wiggle room.

My surgeon choice came about from my cardiologists referral then a ton of checking. I was referred to Dr. Patrick McCarthy out of Northwestern Memorial in Chicago (formerly from Cleveland Clinic and Mayo). When I checked his background via several resources we use at work, he came through as a "top doc" with international credits. He is also the co-director of the facilities heart program. Initially, I was referred to one of his associates but was very concerned about his comparable experience. In this situation, you will constantly hear, experience is everything! I see Dr. McCarthy on 6/26/08. If I can't get him, I will probably go out of state- if I have time. My aneurysm is growing and at 5.2.
 
Ross - I had a valve repair done in 2002, and it was a David-5 type repair, developed by Dr. Tyronne David out of Canada. Should you have any question please feel free to E mail me at [email protected] at any time. My repair, by the way, is holding up just fine.
 
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