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    I am 12 days post AV and root replacement. My neck and shoulders ache tremendously. I can literally feels the knots. I have used heating pads and my husband has rubbed it. Is this pain normal? Did everyone's neck and shoulders ache after surgery? I am going to call the doctor to ask what meds I can take to relieve the sore muscles. I like hearing from this community, it puts my mind at ease that my struggles are normal.
    Tina

  • #2
    I don't remember having a lot of neck and shoulder pain but it is hard to get comfortable in a hospital bed and I couldn't sleep in a regular bed at home for months. The hubby massage is good but at some point you might want to consider getting a therapeutic massage from a licensed pro. It's good that you plan to check with your doc. Sounds like just some residual muscle tightness from all you've been through, but that's just my uneducated guess. Hopefully it will resolve soon for you.
    Medtronics Freestyle Aortic Root Heart Valve (Porcine)
    02/16/05 Inova Fairfax, Virginia (Dr. Speir)
    www.steadfastdawgwalker.com (senior fitness blog)

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    • #3
      When the surgery is done, you are placed in very abnormal positions for relatively long periods of time. Some folks seem to have repercussions from that later. It usually shows up in the back or chest, and occasionally the shoulders. Muscle pain is not unusual after OHS.

      If it's neck-and-shoulders, I would consider if you've been in an unusual position during recovery, either for watching TV or being on the Web (such as head propped up). If it's reasonable in your circumstance, I would suggest ensuring that you get enough movement: head rolls, shoulder shrugs, etc. While you may not be a candidate yet for a lot of arm exercises, you can still swing those arms a bit as you walk, and impart some fairly normal motion to your upper body without stressing your mending sternum.

      I believe recovering natural motion is the best overall recovery strategy for your upper torso. In its own way, it's at least as affected as your heart by this surgery.

      Best wishes,
      Bob H

      "No Eternal Reward will forgive us now for wasting the dawn..." Jim Morrison

      [B] [URL="http://www.valvereplacement.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=8494&d=1276042314"] Click here to View the Glossary of VR Terms and Acronyms[/URL] [/B]

      [B]I am not a Medical Professional.[/B] Aortic Valve Replacement (Medtronic Mosaic) on 4/6/04, at Robert Wood Johnson UH in New Brunswick, NJ. AVR again (St. Jude Biocor) on 08/25/09 at St. Michael's MC in Newark, NJ. Both performed by Dr. Tyrone Krause, a true Zen Master Mechanic in the world of valve replacement surgery.

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      • #4
        Oh yeah....I remember well the achey shoulders and central back...hot packs and hot showers were my best friend for a few weeks...Because it is muscle pain you are feeling Tylenol etc. have little to no effect...Ask your Doc about some valium or another muscle relaxer if its keeping you awake...you need your rest to recover properly. If this is your only concern you are doing mighty well.
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        Ton....(44)
        Surgery...
        April 20, 2006.
        Bentalls' procedure
        & 1 emergency by-pass same day....
        10 hours surgery... 2 OHS in 1 day.
        25mm St Judes valve with attatched ascending aorta conduit.
        3 Cardiac Arrests after 1st surgery
        Mr John Alvarez, my hero...The Mount Hospital...Perth.

        Mum to 3 sons
        2 sons have BAVD 13 & 18yrs.


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        • #5
          Oh yes...as said you are put in some weird positions....you've been opened like a clam so expect some discomfort....especially if you are smaller.

          I had a couple of episodes where i had to lie down there and then as the discomfort was just too much.

          It settles down fairly quickly.

          Its too early now but about 10-14 months post surgery i went to see a chiropractor and they sorted everything out.....BUT.....it was a very good chiropractor that took full body xrays and used a little gun to fire into the muscle/bone (not jumping on my back with their knee) so if you still hurt at that point find a good one not just any jo shmo with a certificate.

          Regards.
          Bicuspid Aortic Valve From Birth :( .
          1990 Valve Stretched Freeman Hospital UK NHS Unkown Surgeon due to risk of sudden death during sport :eek: .
          2006 Bentalls (St Jude) With DHCA Nov 20 Mount Hospital Dr David Andrews due to Ascending Aortic Anurysm.

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          • #6
            I had incredible neck pain and soreness the first week or so after surgery. I really could only lie down when it hurt so much. It was on the side of the neck IV, so I wondered if it had anything to do with that. Nothing really relieved it and it slowly went away. I agree that gentle massage or whatever theraputic massage a doc might recommend can help. Good luck and I hope you find relief soon!

            All the best,

            Betsy
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            Betsy
            Bicuspid Aortic Valve Replacement and Aortic Aneurysm Repair
            Nov. 29, 2007 - Cleveland Clinic, Dr. Lars Svensson
            Carpentier-Edwards Bovine Pericardial Aortic Tissue Valve

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            • #7
              I'm one month post surgery and this continues to be my biggest problem. I've been using the following:
              1) Tiger Balm (like icy hot but stinkier and hotter)
              2) a TheraCane (for trigger point knots)
              3) a Thumper
              4) a Chiropractor (I got my doc to say ok)
              5) Finally, I'm signed up for deep tissue massage once a week.

              Even with all of this, it all comes back the next day :( The chiropractor didn't end up doing much for me (I was pretty limited to what I could do there anyway).
              I went in for one massage and it was AMAZING. If you can find someone that does deep tissue and who can put you in "prone" or "sideline" position (so there is absolutely no pressure on your chest) then I say do it. I'd go every day if I could afford it.

              My surgeon was of no help on this. All they told me was to take more Motrin :(.

              Good Luck!
              Brian

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              • #8
                Yes....I get aches and pains around the neck and shoulders. They twist your body around like Gumby during surgery. From what I hear it's similar to experiencing whiplash. The first 0 -6 months, it was quite often. Now it's only occasionally, usually in damp weather. I take arthritic formula Tylenol when it gets bad. Sometimes I wear one of those collars to provide support to my neck. It usually goes away after a few days.
                Wayne
                02/28/06 Mitral Valve Repair & closure of atrial septal defect - Dr. Tirone David
                03/24/06 Pericardial Tamponade

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                • #9
                  Hi Tina,

                  I was told that during surgery my body was contorted. Something about my arms being pushed out and twisted.I had a little shoulder pain but not much. May be due to fact that someone on VR in a thread told me to do a lot of stretching excerises a couple of weeks before surgery. I think what you are experiencing is normal. I would do as you plan and talk with the doc.Some painkillers may be what you need.
                  God Bless


                  Mickey
                  Mitral valve repair by DaVinci robot and one fine surgeon on 2/7/08

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                  • #10
                    Oh Yea........

                    Been there.
                    Yes do call the doc and see what he/she says. Mean while (as it was mentioned by my Doctor) take note on HOW you are walking.
                    - Are you walking with your shoulders up? as if your cold? Maybe even inwards a bit?
                    - Are tucking in your chin without realizing it?

                    My doctor pointed this two things to me and recommended to walk pushing/or stretching the shoulders downward and at the same time holding your head straight up and back. Holding it for about 5 steps then relax - don't forget to breath. This can even be done when just standing.

                    Tylenol Arthritis may help.

                    Good Luck and let us know what the doctor says.
                    Laughter is the Best Medicine
                    MVR March 30/07 Carbomedics Valve - Said and done in 5 days in Canada

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                    • #11
                      Me too...

                      If it makes you feel any better, I'm 12 days post-op as well and I have quite a bit of neck pain. My shoulders are tight, but my neck hurts. I constantly massage it myself, but doesn't seem to help. Thanks for posting this so that I can learn what to do as well!

                      Good luck with your continued recovery.

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                      • #12
                        Yes I have lots of shoulder pain and even had it in the hospital. Massage does help. I am a month post op and still have it everyday. The massage helps but it comes back. I use a heating pad on it as well that helps some. By all means call your doctor. I was done minimally invasive and my cardio says he hears of more shoulder pain from minimally invasive.
                        Good Luck
                        Earline
                        Marie
                        Aortic Valve replacement (minimally invasive)
                        Medtronic Mosaic Porcine
                        now on warfarin as of 8/5/09
                        January 22, 2008
                        Also have leaking Mitral valve
                        Maybe facing a replacement of the Aortic and a repair of the mitral
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                        Life isn't how to survive the storm but how to dance in the rain. unknown

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                        • #13
                          Oh my aching back!

                          I, too, had a very sore back and neck after my surgery. It lasted for about 3 months - slowly getting better.

                          Hot showers were my frined - a couple of times a day! I also found the 8 hour heat patches for necks and shoulders to be a wonderful source of relief - well worth the money!

                          Hang in there - it does get better!
                          [COLOR="Navy"]Faye J[/COLOR]

                          [COLOR="Indigo"]Co-Arctation Repair 1963
                          AVR and Ascending Aorta Replacement 9-5-07[/COLOR]

                          [FONT="Comic Sans MS"][COLOR="Blue"]"Don't wait for a great day, go out and [B]make it[/B] a great day!"[/COLOR][/FONT]

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                          • #14
                            I agree that you are put in weird positions, pulled, stretched etc.......I had a great deal of shoulder discomfort.....it took quite a while to clear up......I did not go to cardiac rehab and don't know if that would have helped....This in a common aliment that should pass with time.....Sorry you are one of the ones that have to deal with it....Hope it clears up soon.
                            No shoes, no shirt, no problem
                            AVR with Ablation -St Jude Mechanical--2006
                            ~Easy Does It~

                            The early bird get the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese.

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                            • #15
                              I have a touch of arthritis in my right shoulder, and strained all the muscles in my back, right down to my tailbone almost. Every time I got in or out of bed the first few weeks were agony. I also have the proverbial bad back (lower), and it was about the only thing that really got to me after surgery. I had a few weepy moments, but they went away as I got better. Knowing what it was and why, and knowing that it would go away, really helped mentally. Showers and so on really helped physically.
                              AVR September 6th, 2007 at age 52; Carbomedics/Sorin mechanical, model #R500, size 23
                              Hamilton General Hospital - Dr. Semelhago - "Da Best"
                              bicuspid; murmur diagnosed 1985 - warfarin, beta-blocker, BP pill

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